Centre brake light in wiring loom even if not fitted?

aussiewagon · Post by **aussiewagon** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:58 am

Hey everyone, does any one know if the L series has a factory plug in the tail gate wiring loom for the centre mount brake light just hanging there - even if like my wagon (89` touring EFI) it did not have a centre stop light fitted when it was brand new. The reason i ask this is my father had a late 80`s camry and i fitted a centre mount stop light and there was a plug in the factory loom just hanging there in the boot for the models with it fitted so i connected it to that. I`m not game to take the tailgate trim off yet to have a look.

Fatz · Post by **Fatz** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:04 pm

well my t wagz had one, dunno if factory or not, but there was no loom plug for that, just wires that ran somwhere into roof. didnt care too much to investigate.. i can have closer look tonight if you wish..
Cheers

aussiewagon · Post by **aussiewagon** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:24 pm

Doesnt sound like they had a factory loom plug then in the L series. I know when your working on a car and remove a bit of trim there always seems to be a factory plug hanging around for something that your car doesn`t have.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:03 am

You might find your tailgate has the wiring, but there's nothing to plug it into on the loom itself, or that might be vice versa.
You may find there's a spare plug near the RHS taillight cluster in behind the trim.
I'm wiring one up for my 88, but I'm thinking about installing a roof spoiler with a built in brake light, so I want to have the wires there ready to go.

aussiewagon · Post by **aussiewagon** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:15 pm

Right you are wagonist the plug is hanging in the rear of the RH tail light on the wiring loom that goes up to the roof, i decided to pull the tailgate trim - broke a couple of the clips (i knew i would) and there was a plug and even the holes in the tail gate for the centre mount stop light. Now all i have to do is find a cheap an L series centre stop light, i mean cheap.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:51 pm

Got one here. Has a scratch across the red lens.
Not going to use it.
$5 + postage?

aussiewagon · Post by **aussiewagon** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:28 pm

wagonist pm sent

Smokey · Post by **Smokey** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:25 pm

where does the centre light mount? i.e inside top or bottom of tailgate window? Where do we get a light unit from. Did some model come with them?

Smokey.

aussiewagon · Post by **aussiewagon** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:46 pm

If your refering to the L- series smokey the third brake light is mounted centrally at the bottom of the rear window. I discovered today as mentioned above there is a green/black wire/plug hanging around at the rear of the RH tail light and in the tailgate (after removing trim) is a 2 wire plug: green/black and a black wire for earth, holes are there, ready for me to fit, So Wagonist check your pm, sound like smokey`s considering one too. Does anyone know (if u have an L-series with third brake light fittted) do they have a groove cut around the light in the tail gate trim or is the top of the trim dead straight (left to right)

subanator · Post by **subanator** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:44 pm

wagonist wrote:You might find your tailgate has the wiring, but there's nothing to plug it into on the loom itself, or that might be vice versa.
You may find there's a spare plug near the RHS taillight cluster in behind the trim.
I'm wiring one up for my 88, but I'm thinking about installing a roof spoiler with a built in brake light, so I want to have the wires there ready to go.

Wagonist, if you do get a roof mounted spoiler, post a pic up if you do it, and what its from?

My '89 Tourer hasnt a rear brake light either, didnt even think about it as the old MY hasnt got one - just got used to not having one. But when I replaced the rear inside plasic panel, I seem to recall a spare plug wiring.....hmm, migh look into this, but my window tint is so dark, that the light would have to be 50W to see it LOL!

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:00 pm

pic pls. mine has the dodgy hella thing still there and I want to remove it.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:38 pm

my L series sedan (still motor - less ) has all the structure that looks to hold/mount a middle brake light too !

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:47 pm

jono wrote:my L series sedan (still motor - less ) has all the structure that looks to hold/mount a middle brake light too !

Unless it's an 89 or 90 model, you'll find that it doesn't fit.
I fitted one from an 89 Leone Royale to my 85 sedan about 10 years ago now.
After slotting both holes where I thought it would mount by a long way, it finally fit.
Don't do it, fit a ski blade boot spoiler with a light instead.

The wagons simply need a hole cut out of the tailgate trim to fit (at least on the post 88 models, dunno about earlier ones, but I can check before I post mine off)

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:51 pm

FYI, only the 89- models had this light fitted as standard (I think that's when the ADR's started requiring it)