EA82 coolant/overflow bottle problem

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EA82 coolant/overflow bottle problem

Post by aussiewagon » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:56 pm

Hey Everyone, I`ve only in the last 2 months became a L-series EA82 MPFI wagon owner. My problem is everytime I run the wagon on med - long trips and switch the motor off the coolant goes to the overflow bottle (thats normal).HOWEVER it never seems to return, and the more i use the wagon through the day stop-start-stop-start it slowly emptys my radiator - therefore leading to a hotter than usual motor. Ofcourse i have cleaned the overflow bottle out, and the over flow hose is not abstructed, replaced radiator cap and made sure it was the right one? Got me beat! :???:

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Post by Craigus » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:23 pm

If you run the engine with the radiator cap off, are there any bubbles visible surfacing in the coolant?

This sort of behaviour can unfortunately indicate a head gasket leak, which our favourite engines are prone to develop.

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Post by Fatz » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:32 pm

or a blocked radiator core?
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Post by aussiewagon » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:30 pm

My wagon due to the constant filling required of the radiator does have water bubbles when filling (they would be air bubbles that are normal when fillling). As for the radiator i have flushed it out and it seems to drain freely. My main problem as mentioned above is that the overflow bottle will not return the coolant back to the radiator.

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Post by Suby Wan Kenobi » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:43 pm

Have you got any hoses that have a very small leak?
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Post by aussiewagon » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:49 pm

No coolant leaks - only from overflowing overflow bottle (as desribed above)

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Post by GTlegs » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:07 am

I got the same problem. Turned out to be a leaking heater core and a blocked radiator.
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Post by aussiewagon » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:08 pm

Doesn`t seem to be a leaking/faulty heater core, i will check water bubbles in radiator and also see how well the cooling system is circulating in case the radiator is slightly blocked as mentioned in the above replys. Thanks

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Post by fredsub » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:24 pm

i bet it is a leak too, might be very tiny atm, possibly near the top of the radiator.
When the coolant cools, the vacuum produced pulls water back from the overflow bottle - with leak - no vacuum - hence what you got....

anyway, the hole will get bigger, trust me.

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Post by Jack » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:35 pm

Sounds to me like you need to pressure test the radiator.
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Post by daza » Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:53 pm

Like Jack said, a professional pressure test should also test for head gasket leakage(hydrocarbons in coolant).
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Post by aussiewagon » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:02 pm

Yes a pressure test would be a good idea and as for a leak? could be an internal leak? The radiator does have a lot of coolant pressure though - try removing the cap after you have turned off the motor (when its warmed up) - that may indicate something who knows?

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Post by steptoe » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:02 pm

or a hose clamp allowing thinner- than- water air in to replace water volume, or maybe a hose that sucks in on itself (don't try that on yourself !)

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Post by Suby Wan Kenobi » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:57 pm

Is it starting from cold running on 3 cylinders?

If not its probably a blocked radiator or heater core
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Post by aussiewagon » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:20 pm

Its running on 4 cylinders when cold, does chuckle for a couple of seconds when you start it (dead cold), also i guess i could fiddle/ try different overflow hoses/ clamps.

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Post by mattw » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:28 pm

I've had this problem in the past. I'd say if the rad/thermo/heater isn't blocked, a small leak may not push out much coolant, but will easily suck in air when cooling, so not allow the coolant back in. dunno mate. mine used to push out the coolant as you've described, and maintain pressure in the system even after cooling down. course when I put in the new engine, rad, water pump, etc etc it went away.....

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Post by aussiewagon » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:08 pm

A new engine would definetly be the cure and not just for the cooling system problem either!

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