Which engine in which car?

Post by **Alex** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:15 pm

steer clear of the first gen WRX. Theyre getting long toothed now and things like gbox/clutch/etc start to let go.

id be looking at what gannon has said. Go for the later model impreza.

alex

Ciuco · Post by **Ciuco** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:36 pm

Alex wrote: steer clear of the first gen WRX. Theyre getting long toothed now and things like gbox/clutch/etc start to let go.

id be looking at what gannon has said. Go for the later model impreza.

alex

What year's are the first gen WRX's?

What years should i steer clear of and what years are the ones to look for??

Are Subaru's simular to holdens in the way that they have models ever 3-4 years? eg VL Commodore 86-88, VN Commodore 88-91, VP Commodore 91-93 etc...

Which are the better years and which had the most problems...i know these might sound like silly questions but im completely new to subaru's and dont know a thing about them really...

Post by **Alex** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:03 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza

look from 2000-2007, theyd be your best option. A late original shape is also a very nice car

something with 2.0 or 2.5l

early wrx's the 'classic' shape have been known to have glass gearboxs and finding one that is original these days is hard and the price reflects that. Often un-modified wrx's go for alot more money than a modded one.

Seriously if youre not a performance freak id just get a n/a model.

something like this

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... F4A705E783

this looks like a good buy too. in QLD tho.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... F4A705E783

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:04 pm

I think the best piece of advice anyone can give is. Go for the model you like just remember theres always that risk of a lemon but whats a good car if you dont like it just take into account that a 2000 model is 11 yrs old and no car is immortal

Post by **Alex** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:08 pm

mud_king91 wrote:I think the best piece of advice anyone can give is. Go for the model you like just remember theres always that risk of a lemon but whats a good car if you dont like it just take into account that a 2000 model is 11 yrs old and no car is immortal

yes but an educated decision can be made.

Ciuco · Post by **Ciuco** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:49 pm

Alex wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza

a late original shape is also a very nice car

early wrx's the 'classic' shape have been known to have glass gearboxs and finding one that is original these days is hard and the price reflects that. Often un-modified wrx's go for alot more money than a modded one.

What year late original shape?

What year's had "glass gearboxs"??

Im trying to do as much research as i can now, you guys have been a fantastic help so far..

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:16 pm

Ciuco wrote:What year late original shape?

What year's had "glass gearboxs"??

Im trying to do as much research as i can now, you guys have been a fantastic help so far..

Original shape - also known as GC8 - 1993-2000
Bug Eye or GDB - 2000-2007 (although bug eye headlights only lasted a year or 2 and they started looking better and better)

All WRX's have virtually the same gearbox which is virtually the same as the LX/GX/RX/RS boxes. They are all fragile - but generally only if they are given a hard time - like 5000rpm side-step the clutch launches.

If you are looking for a stock unmodified car then it will likely have had an easier life and the gearbox won't be an issue.

Just do the usual - find the newest, lowest km car that you like and can afford.

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:17 pm

Ciuco wrote: Are Subaru's simular to holdens in the way that they have models ever 3-4 years? eg VL Commodore 86-88, VN Commodore 88-91, VP Commodore 91-93 etc...

No not really

Series one ran from 1994-2001 and is known as the GC/GF (chassis code for sedan and wagon respectfully)
Series 2 ran from 2001 to 2007 and is known as the GD/GG. This included 3 styling revisions, mainly to do with the headlights, known as the 'Bug-eye" the "Blob-eye" and the last one was the "Hawk-eye"
The 3rd series has been in production since 2007 and is known as the GE/GH. This model looks a bit like a Mazda 3 hatchback.

Now the MY terminology gets a little confusing as we on this forum refer to early 1800 of the early 80's. We really should refer to them as AB/AM/AU (Sedan/Wagon/Ute) and the same goes for the L series, which we should call AC/AN/AK (Sedan/Wagon/Touring Wagon

You will notice that on carsales.com, that each year is referred to as MY99 ect. Thats just the way that they do it because the car may have left the factory in Japan in 1998, but wasnt complianced in Australia until 1999

As for the engines, they are all pretty much the same, just with different capacities. The only one to avoid is the 1994-1998 DOHC EJ25, they had headgasket issues, but seeing you are getting an Impreza, this doesnt apply to you

Ciuco · Post by **Ciuco** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:37 pm

Thank you very much that was exactly what i was looking for...

I think im leaning towards the Series one 98/99/00/01 shape WRX as that is what i really like..

But will keep an eye out for a Series Two early WRX if one pops up...

Auto or Manual....was one better mechanically then the other?

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:18 pm

Ciuco wrote:Auto or Manual....was one better mechanically then the other?

I think it comes down to personal preference - I've got a mate that got an auto hatch WRX - neat looking car and while he loves it he wishes it was a manual as the auto doesn't have the same fun factor.

That said, and I know others have said the the early WRX's had a glassbox as a gearbox - but realistically this goes for all subarus or any vehicle for that matter. What people were doing was upping the power out put with mods then dumping all that stock power + some through the un-modified/thought about gearbox. Things tend to go bang when you don't beef up further down the drive train after some engine mods.

It's a pretty simple way of thinking when you just do up the engine without following through with everything from there back. $$$ factor adds up quick but is worthwhile in the long run!

Cheers

Bennie

Ciuco · Post by **Ciuco** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:06 pm

El_Freddo wrote:
he wishes it was a manual as the auto doesn't have the same fun factor.

That said, and I know others have said the the early WRX's had a glassbox as a gearbox - but realistically this goes for all subarus or any vehicle for that matter. What people were doing was upping the power out put with mods then dumping all that stock power + some through the un-modified/thought about gearbox.

Bennie

Just had a great conversation with a mate who owns a break and cluch centre and he said exactly the same thing...he's a WRX freak and has a few himself...

He said that the auto's are generally good although a little laggy and just dont have that "fun factor". While the manual's are good until mod's a made to the engine then they temp to blow 2nd very easily...

He said for what im looking for in an un-modified car, the manual is the way to go...

Does that sound accurate?

dobo · Post by **dobo** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:00 am

Yeah you will definently have more fun in a manual

Buying something unmodded is always a best way to go. That Usually(but not always) means it hasnt been pushed too hard. With the wrx's, alot of people buy them because they want to drive like colin mcrae. So ideally look for a low k and prob best to get an racv check before hand.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:07 am

and don't you wish you could get the cars Top Gear sourced for under the five thousand pound price tag the other night!

There is also RS Imprezza with 2.5 litre NA

Ciuco · Post by **Ciuco** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:29 am

steptoe wrote: There is also RS Imprezza with 2.5 litre NA

Whats the RS??

Post by **Alex** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:39 am

in the earlier models like the 2000-2003ish the RS with the 2.5 only came in a sedan.

this puppy would be my preference if you have that much to spend

http://redbook.com.au/used-cars/details ... 027766A9BF

checkout this site. It is the best and youll get a feel for all the different models.

http://redbook.com.au/used-cars/results ... Id=1407342

just scroll thru to the exact model you want

alex

niterida · Post by **niterida** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:41 am

Ciuco wrote:Whats the RS??

Just like he said - Impreza with 2.5 non-turbo motor - think it has a bit of a body kit and fog lights etc. Probably the pick of the non-turbo Impreza range.

They'd be rated at about 130kw ?? so no slouch but no rocketship either.

Post by **Alex** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:07 am

niterida wrote:Just like he said - Impreza with 2.5 non-turbo motor - think it has a bit of a body kit and fog lights etc. Probably the pick of the non-turbo Impreza range.

They'd be rated at about 130kw ?? so no slouch but no rocketship either.

nah about 115kw or so.

Ciuco · Post by **Ciuco** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:27 pm

Thanks for the info guys..now all i gotta do is find the right car...

Wish me luck...

dobo · Post by **dobo** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:10 pm

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... R=11082607

Here i picked one for you

Post by **Alex** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:31 pm

dobo wrote:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... R=11082607

Here i picked one for you

its so pwetty!

like!