Discharging the MY air con

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Discharging the MY air con

Post by GTlegs » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:35 am

Guys

Does anyone know the correct way to discharge and MY air con so that the compressor can be safely removed?
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Post by BBoypebs » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:00 am

You will have to get a qaulified mechanic to discharge the system.
Most service garages should be able to do it.
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Post by AlpineRaven » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:22 am

yes what he said above is correct, its illegal to discharge it into the environment, most mechanic's and air con. places will do it for free, some don't.
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Post by shuffbag » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:20 am

lol what, i never knew that...... should have known earlier :)

not being a ass i actually never knew this, have i killed some animals/melted the north pole or something
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Post by jim » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:13 pm

got mine discharged for free last time

alot of places that don't have a discharge facility will just vent into the atmosphere

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Post by AlpineRaven » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:30 pm

yeah its bad for the ozone layer. That is why Australia is sunburn't country!
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Subarus that I have/had:
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Post by GTlegs » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:19 pm

Um, the reason I asked is because I want to get a compressor from the wreckers, and its still all connected up - not sure if the wreckers discharged it.
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Post by AlpineRaven » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:59 pm

GTlegs wrote:Um, the reason I asked is because I want to get a compressor from the wreckers, and its still all connected up - not sure if the wreckers discharged it.
YEah some do discharge it some don't best to ask the yard before you do...
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Subarus that I have/had:
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Post by Phizinza » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:48 pm

Isn't it illegal (with a large fine) discharging R12 and R13a gasses to atmosphere?
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Post by GTlegs » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:22 pm

thanks for all your replies - I better speak to them
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Post by subarooster » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:51 pm

its not just R12 and R134A that are illegal to vent. Most refridgerants have some legal issues attached to them these days. LPG is the only one that you can vent but alot of people don't believe in putting it in their cars for fear they might explode :D..... works reeeally good tho.

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Post by BBoypebs » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:53 pm

Phizinza wrote:Isn't it illegal (with a large fine) discharging R12 and R13a gasses to atmosphere?
Yep, up to $100,000 slap over the back of the head with a BIG plank of wood.:rolleyes:
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Post by subarooster » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:54 pm

In Addition to that, you can 'secretly' get rid of it into atmosphere while noones looking but if not, just do wat AlpineRaven said and take it to a qualified aircon bloke, they have to have the recovery unit to do it so most general mechanics don't have it unless they specify that they do aircons as well

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Post by username » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:02 pm

subarooster wrote:you can 'secretly' get rid of it into atmosphere
By using a reclaim rag so no one around you can hear or see what you're doing, otherwise Peter Garret will get real sad real quick. It is hella bad for the ozone though, each moleculey thing of R12 kills like a 100 ozone moleculy things and they go on to kill 100 more each and its just a vicious cycle or something, i should have paid more attention at trade school but thats the general gist of things. Your not supposed to release any to ozone but some are heaps worse than others, all got to do with the GWP and ODP of the refrigerant.

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Post by Phizinza » Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:38 am

If you have children or grandchildren then think about what your doing more carefully. Its not your world you'd fk up, it's theirs and their children. Still, if you hate them that much go ahead.
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Post by GTlegs » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:20 am

woah, relax guys, I was just trying to find out the details - I am a fan of Earth and will do the right thing.
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Post by Phizinza » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:18 pm

Sorry GTlegs, wasn't pointing that to you, just at the people who were commenting about doing it who knew it was a bad.
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Post by AlpineRaven » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:31 pm

some people have said about LPG or natural gas as air cond, is that true? Is it better? If its better why don't they do it in these days?
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Post by sven '2' » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:12 pm

...and second hand compressors - never had much luck with these.

Is the donor item fresh / charged / operational?

Understanding a new one is $1000+, second handaround $200-300 with no warranty?

Depends on your pockets as to the better option

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Post by AlpineRaven » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:20 pm

sven '2' wrote:...and second hand compressors - never had much luck with these.

Is the donor item fresh / charged / operational?

Understanding a new one is $1000+, second handaround $200-300 with no warranty?

Depends on your pockets as to the better option

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cant be that much... last time I bought one about 3 yrs ago, was like something like $40... Very hard to find a good "condition" compressor.
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Subarus that I have/had:
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic
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