Just some backyard fun. Video 3.7mb

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:18 pm

Just thought I'd throw a link in here to the lastest video I done. Sorry about the quality, my bro only had his Picture Camera, not my DV... Also the lack of sound.

Warning, it requires DivX 5.2 and a player like WMP, Quicktime or WinAmp.

www.offroadingsubarus.com/downloads.html

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:38 am

my god it lifts the wheels early

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:19 am

yeah, problem with 2" lift and 27's... suspension is too stiff. I would like to soften it up and grab a 4 or 6" lift, maybe get new front long rides and some different shocks for the rear.

stinky · Post by **stinky** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:10 pm

Nice work ... looks like you need to weld your rear diff

On the body lift side of things, think very carefully before you do go anything above 3". I found with my old 4" lift I was bending the blocks and bolts ( especially at the rear ). I think anything 4" and above should be re-inforced between the blocks. Some of the guys in the US ( usmb ) have done some really cool kits that are almost like a subframe.

However I do push my subaru's way past their capabilities offroad, so that would have had a hand in the bent lift blocks. I am the only person i know to have bent a re-inforced diff hanger

My current rig is 3" front, 2" back and fits the 27" wrangler tg under without scrubbings which is all that's really needed.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:01 pm

Just out of interest

any thing bigger than 2" in SA is illegal and voids all insurance policies on the car including the compulsary 3rd party bodily insurance.

a 2" is legal only when the car has been pre-approved by transport SA and inspected after installation then fitted with a mod sticker.

You will then be given a certificate of exemption for that car which you have to carry around for when you get pulled over.

same with your rims/tyres. The speedies are out of track for sure and the total tyre size is more than 10% greater the the OEM fitment.

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:44 pm

Yeah. I know all that mate. I am pretty sure the lift kit has been approved but I will have to double check that. Also my insurance company knows I have a 2" lift kit and they didn't seem to bother me about it. But still, I'll give them a ring again about the wheels, not that they are at all legal

But this topic is in the Videos forum, and is about a video. Can we go back on topic?

Fang · Post by **Fang** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:38 pm

Phizinza wrote:But this topic is in the Videos forum, and is about a video. Can we go back on topic?

Indeed. Tis a good video Phizinza - your Brumby looks the shiz

. I have been collating the exploits of my vehicle as well on my new digi camera. I will have to find motivation and put them into a single video as well sometime.

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:06 pm

I agree with Stinky - you need a welded diff. My wagon would have driven up that embnkment without any effort at all. The welded diff makes a huge difference.

Good vid though

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:32 am

Yeah tim, I have a spare 3.7 diff from a wreck. My bro wants to weld it and see what its like. I guess when we get the mig I will give it a go. It was frustrating with no LSD or weld

But a run up makes it work.

I must admit, I have zero expirance in offroading. I just think it over and use the most logical answer to get thru. Speed.

I need to get my other (tame) video off my DV cam and edit that up. I really should do some more offroading and try some harder stuff.

Fang · Post by **Fang** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:35 am

Others will tell you why LSD is not good offroad - but mine has been quite good offroad - helped get up some daunting hills.

A welded diff has the advantage when one of the wheels is off the ground - I am lead to believe.

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:48 pm

"when one of the wheels is off the ground"

Yeah, because the diff is basicly turned into a soild axle. So both wheels *should* turn the same no matter what

*should*, I have read plenty of stories about breaking welds..

I have also talked to plenty of people over the internet that say LSD is great for offroad. So if I get one or two people saying LSD's are crud, I won't belive a word till they explain why. Some people just have beliefs.

I still believe having all these extras only makes it easy for the driver. Better drivers shouldn't need all this cool stuff? i.e. I know my dad used to take his VW passat (front engine, FWD) places hilux drivers wouldn't go, or get stuck.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:21 pm

vw has extreme light weight in its favour.. have you seen where an old suzuki will go?

welded diff will destroy the weakest part, that could be the weld, the axle spline, the doj's.. etc

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:34 pm

I have broken CV's and axle splines with my diff. This comes about from driving around on the road with both rear axles in, I drive with one now.

LSD's are certainly heaps better offroad than an open diff. And when I say heaps I mean heaps. Basically it greatly raises the threshold at which slippage will occur. In a one wheel airborne situation however I have seen them slip. In fact I've rarely seen a wheel in the air on an LSD vehicle not get all the power. The only LSD equipped vehicle I've seen in WA able to drive with a wheel in the air easily has been the Jaffa-tank with its viscous LSD. Hatchie slips like crazy :P :P .

Welded is definitely the go for hardcore offroading, short of spending the dosh to get a proper locker. If you want proof of that there is a video floating around in which jonno from these boards manages to tip his car on its side by driving up a hill! He'd have never got that far without the welded diff...

smoov · Post by **smoov** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:29 pm

Fang wrote:Others will tell you why LSD is not good offroad - but mine has been quite good offroad - helped get up some daunting hills.

A welded diff has the advantage when one of the wheels is off the ground - I am lead to believe.

Here we go again.... the LSD vs CIG debate....

with the welded diff, YOU WILL CHEW UP SHAFTS (or worse!), unless you remove shafts when you drive onroad.

LSD's work fantastic offroad, provided its a clutched unit, and provided that you have it serviced (read: repacked) every 12-18 months. Ive seen them work in other's cars, and you can't beat them in sand, mud or even rock-hopping situations. (ok, a locked one would...

)

mine worked gloriously offroad. onroad, it even behaved a bit like a locker....chirped around corners driving around in carparks!!! (for the first several months)

viscous LSD are slow on the uptake. more suited for road use, to minimise damage to drivetrain (ie driveshafts).

Sure a welded diff is more advantageous in offroad situations, but buggered if I will be removing/putting in shafts, only to lay under a dirty car, in mud, sand rocks, having crap drip on my face, only to hop back into my (relatively) clean interior and muck all that up.

mattims · Post by **mattims** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:20 pm

speaking to a friend at the mechanic saw my L series chirping a rear wheel when i parked (clutch type LSD) and said that it all depends on the oil you use. He said if you use 80wt oil with no friction modifier it will basically be a locked diff.

havent tried playing at all yet because im pretty happy with it currently. It does definetly put more power to the lifted wheel but i think i can spin a rear wheel with the other one lifted if i try. (but ive got road tires not 4wd)

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:46 am

I've heard plenty of stories about limping home in 3WD. And a second hand axle doesn't cost much. So, if you want it cheaper then a LSD and your good at welding, and you don't mind fixing cars, then welded sounds good. At the moment I will just learn to drive better and use open diffs.

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:55 pm

I cant play it

I have sound but no video, im using winamp 5.12 and have also tried media player xp but no show.

What do i have to download to watch this clip

Cheers guys

Gannon.

Fang · Post by **Fang** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:08 pm

You need the DivX codec, Gannon

http://www.divx.com

Phizinza · Post by **Phizinza** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:56 am

Thanks fang.
Indeed you do need the divx codec. And the reason the sound is playing is because I just use normal MP3 for it. But thats the technical side of it. My new videos will be done in DivX 6... My PC stuffed up and I had to download all the new codec's, including the new WMV one. Its a pitty, cos now people have to download something like 10mb just to watch my vids

I could do them in WMV so they should play in any WMP. What do people think. I asked this on USMB but a few guys said "NO" cos they use linux. I can't do both, not enough space on my site for that.

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:47 am

See if this takes care of the divx issues, it's only 450k.

http://www.divxlight.com/divxlight.exe

Jordan.