Rear toe out problems continue
- subalex
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Rear toe out problems continue
I'm continuing from where I left off a few months ago here... I had some excessive toe out on the rear left of my L-series and some good advice wa given here on the forum.
I've finally got around to trying these:
a) changing the trailing arm and hub
b) changing the rear crossmember
c) changing the diff hanger
(all swapped with parts from my spare car)
However, there is still a good pull to the right. My local Beaurepaires did the wheel alignment and gave me the bad news that this wheel was 10mm out months ago and I'm wondering if it their assessment/alignment may have been not quite perfect. I have known that that wheel has had some alignment issues for a couple of years though - just nowhere near that significant.
So, I'm going to go back to the front of the car and loosen off the lift blocks at that end and let the pieces sort themselves out at that end before tightening them off too. Does this sound like a good policy? After that I'll get another alignment done - perhaps somewhere else too.
Alex
I've finally got around to trying these:
a) changing the trailing arm and hub
b) changing the rear crossmember
c) changing the diff hanger
(all swapped with parts from my spare car)
However, there is still a good pull to the right. My local Beaurepaires did the wheel alignment and gave me the bad news that this wheel was 10mm out months ago and I'm wondering if it their assessment/alignment may have been not quite perfect. I have known that that wheel has had some alignment issues for a couple of years though - just nowhere near that significant.
So, I'm going to go back to the front of the car and loosen off the lift blocks at that end and let the pieces sort themselves out at that end before tightening them off too. Does this sound like a good policy? After that I'll get another alignment done - perhaps somewhere else too.
Alex
'91 Sportswagon - 3" lifted, 14" speedys, 27" Nankangs + lots of small details improved. Wouldn't mind some extra grunt from an EJ.
- AlpineRaven
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Yeah its common problems with ageing cars, my best advice would be to replace all rubber bushes, I had that problem with Holden JE Camira in the past and replaced the bushes and problem was solved, yes it was costly but it costed me for wheel alignment all the time but the last one when i replaced the bushes was free.
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AP
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AP
Subarus that I have/had:
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic

1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic

- stamp_licker
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I'm guessing you've done this but... lift the back of car up and loosen the trailing arm bolts[the 3 together] so wheels drop and thn re tighten.If you are hard or jump your car the wheels will get excessive toe as the trailing arm shifts on the bolts.As suggested new bushes but they are bastards to get in and out.
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You could try something similar to what i did on the back of my ute, but change the Kmac kit to horizonal instead of vertical adjustment, thus giving toe adjustment. See the below thread for details. Just an idea
showthread.php?t=5977&page=3&highlight=rear
showthread.php?t=5977&page=3&highlight=rear
"Bianca"
'86 Brumby - Dual Port Heads, 5 Speed Dual Range, Custom Cam, Tuned Weber, Tuned Suspension, 2" Body Lift Kit, LSD, 14" rims, 2.25" Exhaust, Snorkel, Dual Batteries, DVD Player, UHF, VHF, etc. Offically now part of the 350, 000 km Club!
And still pulling like a freight train.

"Claudia"
82 MY Wagon - EA81T, RS Liberty WIAC, 5 Speed Dual Range, Tuned Suspension, 14" Rims 27" Tyres, 2" Body Lift Kit, Apline Head unit, UHF, Roof Console, L Series seats, Soon to have New Paint, snorkel, Dual batteries, etc

'86 Brumby - Dual Port Heads, 5 Speed Dual Range, Custom Cam, Tuned Weber, Tuned Suspension, 2" Body Lift Kit, LSD, 14" rims, 2.25" Exhaust, Snorkel, Dual Batteries, DVD Player, UHF, VHF, etc. Offically now part of the 350, 000 km Club!


"Claudia"
82 MY Wagon - EA81T, RS Liberty WIAC, 5 Speed Dual Range, Tuned Suspension, 14" Rims 27" Tyres, 2" Body Lift Kit, Apline Head unit, UHF, Roof Console, L Series seats, Soon to have New Paint, snorkel, Dual batteries, etc

- subalex
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Thanks for the advice guys,
I've done the loosening of the bolts on the trailing arms before, twice and not got a significant improvement. Through swapping the complete rear end crossmember, trailing arms and diff hanger I figured this should have fixed everything but it hasn't yet. I've been re-adjusting the front wheel alignment and much of the problems have gone, there is still a small pull to the right now.
I know that the bushes on the trailing arms I've fitted aren't perfect, however, if I change the hubs/control arms back over to the better ones then I'm also putting on the ones with worn bearings. I'll be taking my pick of the worse evil or paying for one (the bushes) or the other (the bearings) to be replaced professionally. I'm otherwise out of ideas on how to fix this jolly thing.
I've done the loosening of the bolts on the trailing arms before, twice and not got a significant improvement. Through swapping the complete rear end crossmember, trailing arms and diff hanger I figured this should have fixed everything but it hasn't yet. I've been re-adjusting the front wheel alignment and much of the problems have gone, there is still a small pull to the right now.
I know that the bushes on the trailing arms I've fitted aren't perfect, however, if I change the hubs/control arms back over to the better ones then I'm also putting on the ones with worn bearings. I'll be taking my pick of the worse evil or paying for one (the bushes) or the other (the bearings) to be replaced professionally. I'm otherwise out of ideas on how to fix this jolly thing.
'91 Sportswagon - 3" lifted, 14" speedys, 27" Nankangs + lots of small details improved. Wouldn't mind some extra grunt from an EJ.