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Post by BRUMBERTY » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:28 am

Hi all, I am about to rebuild the jet boat trailer, would like to match the rims to the WonderBrumby, has anyone ever made a trailer set up with Subie suspension?

I was thinking the rear of a front wheel drive sedan?

Any tips or pics would be much appreciated.

Matt
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Post by bluesteel » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:36 am

hey matt...

the wonderbrumby had standard ol 6 stud sunnies right?

so find a nice easy trailer setup and put sunnies on it ;)

unless you really want to muck around with suby suspension in which case you better get your order in for parts as im about to send more stuff to the tip
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Post by tassyraider » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:40 am

hi berty try early ecconovan dual wheels on the hubs depends how heavy boat is cheerz mick
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Post by Suby Wan Kenobi » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:49 pm

If you use an MY rear you will need to also instal L series rear coil over struts as well as the MY suspension was never designed to take much weight
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Post by tim_81coupe » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:48 pm

I'm going to be doing this soon, modifying the leaf setup on Dad's trailer to the torsion bar suspension of an MY 2WD rear end. The trailer is a 6X4 and has only 3 leafs per side, no significant loads are ever placed in it so I'm hoping the springs can stand up. I'll be using pump-up shocks too, mounted on some brackets I'm going to have to adapt to the frame.

There are three reasons why I'm doing it.
1) I have a spare 2WD rear end
2) I have nearly 1,000,000 spare Subaru 13" steelies with tyres.
3) I've been playing with my little mig welder lately and feel confident to move onto a bigger project.


Pics will come when I do it.
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Post by Fury » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:06 pm

Are you hooking up brakes? - I have rear Vortex disks from a 2wd, if you need em, but I am not sure what you have on the Brum.. They'd be cheap.
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Post by maudsland » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:56 pm

i have built several trailer with early subie rear end , the uglies as you call them, the first trailer was a car trailer with tandem axles second was a 6x4 box trailer dam soft ride it was and carried bucket loads of weight and last was a huge tandem trailer my dad used to move a house full of funiture from the gold coast to kurumba in the gulf, so yes subie rear ends are very tough espeacially the uglies
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Post by AndrewT » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:13 am

Hopefully in the next few weeks I'll get my Subaru trailer project properly underway. Gotta remember pick up the 2wd rear end soon actually!

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Post by BRUMBERTY » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:25 am

Thanks guys, exactly the input I was looking for.

Reasons why...
-I like Subaru stuff (I can fix it)

-Leaf springs offend me in several ways, especially the rusty bastards that are on there now!

-It gives me spare wheel options

-I hate trailer wheel bearing design and the fact the wheels are just waiting to fly off!

-I am with Tim (in spirit) and getting more adventurous with the Mig.

- I can pick up the stern of the boat with one hand (empty, very empty)

-With the a motor in place and jet sort of place I can lift the stern with a little grunt.

This is going to be a very light boat.

So, humour me here....
2WD MY Ass end ( I am thinking wagon torsion bar )
Drilled for 6 stud with 15" Black Rats
Coil overs if necessary later from L series wagon.

Will the brakes (normal hydraulic brakes) be able to be utilised and connected to the Wonder Brumby's system?
It would be cool to have a couple of fancy stainless hydraulic couplers to click in and go.
Especially if the boat is loaded with camping gear, fuel and ice
(going camping)
or crayfish, abalone and fish (coming home)

Cheers,
Matt
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EJ22 Dual range AWD lifted, widened and much happier now thanks very much.

1991 L Series wagon, white and perfectly normal apart from the ticking, no I think that is normal.

Jet boat..webbered EA81 with a hybrid tin dish welded and glued to it.

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Post by AndrewT » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:03 am

I havn't heard of a trailer brake system that actually interconnects with the towing vehicle's system...sounds too hard!
The trailers with brake assistance that I have seen have a different tow hitch. The tow hitch has a built in master cylinder and a huge piston. Basically when you start to slow down, the piston is compressed by the weight of the trailer pushing against the back of your car. This operates the master cylinder which in turn operates the trailer's brakes.
It ends up proportioning the brakes basically exactly with how hard you are slowing down.
You should be able to pick one up from a trailer parts place and adapt it easily to some brake lines going down to the MY drums.

Here's a pic - the middle one...
http://www.trailerfactory.com.au/images ... plings.jpg
The lever is to manually lock the brakes on (handbrake)

I was thinking of doing this with my `Baru trailer but probably won't now unless I think it needs it. Surprisingly the rear half of an L series wagon is quite light weight!

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Post by BRUMBERTY » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:13 am

Thanks Andrew, that will be the way to go I think.
I like simple.
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EJ22 Dual range AWD lifted, widened and much happier now thanks very much.

1991 L Series wagon, white and perfectly normal apart from the ticking, no I think that is normal.

Jet boat..webbered EA81 with a hybrid tin dish welded and glued to it.

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Post by bluesteel » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:21 am

i have a set of my rear drums with 6 holes in them if youre intersted

also is there any real working difference between 2wd and 4wd rear ends?

it cant hurt having the rear stub axle hanging out

unless of course you have a 2wd rear end sitting there


oh and i think im heading up that way on the weekend if u need anything (gotta show u the new rexy anyways)
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Post by BRUMBERTY » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:28 pm

bluesteel wrote:i have a set of my rear drums with 6 holes in them if youre intersted

oh and i think im heading up that way on the weekend if u need anything (gotta show u the new rexy anyways)
That would be great, let me know when you are coming up.

I will hear you coming anyway, I am sure.

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EJ22 Dual range AWD lifted, widened and much happier now thanks very much.

1991 L Series wagon, white and perfectly normal apart from the ticking, no I think that is normal.

Jet boat..webbered EA81 with a hybrid tin dish welded and glued to it.

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Post by legacytt » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:10 pm

I have a 2wd rear end here you can have if you come and pick it up. Just getting in the way here.
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Post by BaronVonChickenPants » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:57 pm

The advantage of the 2WD rear setup is that you can use the 2WD disc rear end which are fairly easy and cheap to come by, compared to the 4WD ones anyway.

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