EA82 into Brumby/MY tips & tricks ??

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:47 pm

If you have any - put 'em in here, or links will do.

Never really considered exhaust until recently, so now recommend the EA82 Y pipe for the job as it is ~6mm bigger ID over stock EA81 Y pipe.

The L heater hoses firewall entry differ to MY, so ditching the metal pipe from water pump back and intend to use a CH1687 from earliest Holden V8 , about 1200mm long but with a nice bend at the end to go direct from water pump, under the mpfi inlet manifold and go off somewehre to meet the heater tap.
I picked up another hose TBA that looks to do the job from back of mpfi inlet to the other side of the heater tap with the odd joiner.

Some have said reuse MY radiator - for that looks like a lower L rad hose will do for a top hose. Stuff knows for the bottom hose yet.
Have also seen an L radiator with EA82 in Brumby - just they have different mounting points at the top, and the locating pins at the bottom are opposite gender.

I have elongated the engine cros member engine mount holes for the EA82 wider points.

Also shoved the windscreen washer bottle further back to clear the dizzy.

Also followed advice in here and found a longer coil lead - retaining coil position to MY RHS rather than rewire to L position LHS, Think just need a coil boot for the end. Going to use matching coil to dizzy and standard BP6ES style plugs, no resistor plugs gonna be used.

Also, running an L box, so just L clutch and flywheel for the EA82.

Expecting MY accy cable to be same length

Just wondering about the engine stay bracket ? Use MY rod and bracket, L rod and bracket, a combo or custom ??

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:02 pm

I've got an EA82 engine/box combo in an MY wagon that I can take some pics for you. Just need to remember, as the car is in the graveyard.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:21 am

OK, Paul, that could help settle the pre conversion thoughts ticking over in head at 3.00am

Curious to know if it has L or MY radiator and if the hoses are single piece each end or made up and joined somewhere. Doubting any CH #'s still on them if it is in the graveyard.

And that stay rod and engine side bracket, whether it is MY, L or what.

Remember, that is hard, just add it to the heater box pics promised to Gothgirl89

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:22 pm

Can't tell you what was used as I didn't do any of the work but here's the pics as promised

And was thinking this one might be easier to fit in

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:43 am

Thanks Paul. Looks good. Says I need to retain MY EA81 stay rod and bracket. Looks to fit nice when no clutch fork in the way at least.

MY radiator stays in place with a one piece hose up top

Might just be an L top hose ?

That'll be a saving - I modded my radiator space to take what I thought was an L radiator - turns out it was a Vortex radiator I scored from cruzingbrumby - they don't fit as easy - longer !

Coil is in a tidy spot, as I was planning, but the longer lead trick will save effin about to achieve same thing

Not sure if that is a heater bypass trick or it is hooked up from pics - didn't ask did I

Likely have that sorted with my hoses selected off the long wall at autopro

Love to do the EA82T but requires exhaust work not in the budget, nor is engineering on the card$. Maybe when it is all in and running, I know what my mongrel runs like, then may 'just' slap a hairdryer on.

I have measured thermostat housing - 30mm radiator ID hoses are what is needed, stick that in my memory . Did Fuji stick to 30mm ID on J stuff ?

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:42 am

Sorry buddy, you did mention the heater hoses but I forgot all about them when I was taking pics. I think you're correct in saying that it's not hooked up.

Oh and it's not an EA82T

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:32 am

Not ?? Oh, did EA81T have a thermostat up front like EA82 does ?

EA81 had raised letters on the 'intercooler' as opposed to recessed on EA82T - just a little tricky to spot in the light.

EA82 like PS pump anway .....

AC receiver drier and charcoal swapped with battery .....
air filter box is different - noticed that....

OK on the heater hose pics, sure I can nut it out when the time comes

The pics are appreciated by me at least

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:34 am

The dizzy is the best give-away

I thought you'd like it

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:33 pm

, oj yeah, dizzy location

I like. Is it put to pasture for engine reasons or other ?

I seem to recall you are sitting on a Sertain EA81 - hoarding it or driving it Paul ?

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:38 pm

That's an MPFI EA81T isn't it??

What is it doing sitting out there un-used? Seems a shame not to use it in something

Only last week I saw an MPFI EA81 in the flesh for the first time on the floor at Subareck, my god it was a mess of tubes, hoses, fuel lines and wiring

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:44 pm

I have plenty of EA71, EA81, EA82 engines in many different versions but room is my down fall. I wish I had a massive shed on a big property but need to win lotto. There was nothing wrong with the EA81T, it was the wife's daily but then we had more tin lids, so we brought a 8 seater van. I was thinking of fitting it into a Brumby one day but since playing with carby/dizzy EJs then I can't be bothered with the EFI unless it's EJ20T or EJ25T. Might just end up selling it??

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:00 am

Not enough room ay Paul? I believe I can help you with that

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:44 pm

I'm sure you'd get a pretty penny if you decided to sell it

But being all injectors and such I bet you need the wiring loom from the whole front end of the car to make it work?

Post by **TOONGA** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:15 pm

How to make a brumby an EA81 turbo

1. buy the sedan Paul has (hope you have Walters Whites bank account)
2. Remove the dash + all wiring and the engine from the brumby.
3.Replace everything you have removed from the brumby with everything needed from the sedan. including the awsome bonnet badges

4.Enjoy turbocharged goodness

TOONGA

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:23 pm

Subydoug wrote:Not enough room ay Paul? I believe I can help you with that

Sounds good to me Doug.. when can I move in? LOL

Silverbullet wrote:I'm sure you'd get a pretty penny if you decided to sell it But being all injectors and such I bet you need the wiring loom from the whole front end of the car to make it work?

Pretty much as Jules has mentioned below.. as for price.. well I'm open to offers

TOONGA wrote:How to make a brumby an EA81 turbo

1. buy the sedan Paul has (hope you have Walters Whites bank account)
2. Remove the dash + all wiring and the engine from the brumby.
3.Replace everything you have removed from the brumby with everything needed from the sedan. including the awsome bonnet badges
4.Enjoy turbocharged goodness

TOONGA

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:31 am

Found on a link provided by TOONGA on the weber thread, someone who did weber+EA82 carb inlet manifold on EA81 describes with pics how an EA82 L Series lower radiator hose is trimmed to fit between EA81 radiator and EA82 inlet thermostat (aka top hose) when on an EA81

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:53 am

steptoe wrote:Found on a link provided by TOONGA on the weber thread, someone who did weber+EA82 carb inlet manifold on EA81 describes with pics how an EA82 L Series lower radiator hose is trimmed to fit between EA81 radiator and EA82 inlet thermostat (aka top hose) when on an EA81

As the EA71 (which is almost the same castings as the EA81) came out in the L.Series, I'm thinking that the EA82 top hose would work fine, albeit a small trim may be required but why would you go to all the hassle of swapping the manifold? I would have thought the EA81 would have had a lot less crap all over it??

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:13 pm

I think a normal carby EA82 inlet is possibly a little bigger inside. I know my EA82 spfi (that is i for imported from USA) inlet manifold is wider on the ootside by about 6mm - which could be like breathing through both your mouth and nostrils compared to just mouth like a std intake manifold. I got mine for its throttle body to better engineer an LPG application

One less mpfi manifold in America, and negative, our on sebatical leave member over there did not source it.....

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:20 pm

Well, I'll be..found a hose CH2603 Mackay part # , has been used, but still wth nylon hanger cord and label

Says it is a Leone 1800 EA82 bottom hose

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:32 pm

steptoe wrote:I think a normal carby EA82 inlet is possibly a little bigger inside. I know my EA82 spfi (that is i for imported from USA) inlet manifold is wider on the ootside by about 6mm - which could be like breathing through both your mouth and nostrils compared to just mouth like a std intake manifold. I got mine for its throttle body to better engineer an LPG application

One less mpfi manifold in America, and negative, our on sebatical leave member over there did not source it.....

Couldn't say if there is an internal difference or not but I guess filling it up with water then pouring it into a measuring jug and do this to the EA81 would be a good way of checking.

Isn't the SPFI manifold a twin port? Have you got pics of it? Will the LPG setup be a dedicated LPG only?

steptoe wrote:Well, I'll be..found a hose CH2603 Mackay part # , has been used, but still wth nylon hanger cord and label Says it is a Leone 1800 EA82 bottom hose

Isn't the L.Series bottom and top hoses the same?? I thought that was the only good thing about the EA82