Final questions for a 2wd to 4x4 conversion

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:32 pm

I have heard that the clutch and the front drive shafts in a 4x4 are different to the 2wd version. is that true? also any tips/tricks with the conversion that any one knows about? when done i will hopefully do a write up to help others.

cheers chris

Suby Wan Kenobi · Post by **Suby Wan Kenobi** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:38 pm

What model are you converting?

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:58 pm

sorry it is an 86 l series leone sedan

chris

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:31 am

Anyone with hints????

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:53 am

Not sure about the front drive shafts, however there are several different clutches available for the 4WD L-series, you'll need the clutch to suit your gearbox.

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:49 pm

I think the driveshafts are the same in the L series, they are different in the MY's. The difference is internal in these, they still have 23 splines on the cup and slide into the same hubs.

There is a difference between the carby models and the MPFI / Turbo models, the inner cup goes to a larger 25 splines. If you have a carby model, use a 4x4 box from a carby model and it should be OK. Likewise if you have a turbo or MPFI, use a box from one of these. All said and done though its not that hard to change shafts, but it is more money and mucking around.

Didn't know there were several clutches, I thought the R397n was the only one, but I'm not certain on this.

SuBaRiNo · Post by **SuBaRiNo** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:49 pm

I have only done 4wd conversions several times with the MY models... im not sure if the same rules apply for the L series.

Front CV's were a different spline count so we changed all them and also changed the front brake rotors to suit the 4wd spline.

Tail shaft from the 4wd wagon fit the sedan. We had to swap the fuel tank also.... and the center console in the car. Back end bolted directly in with some minor modifications to add a bolt in point for the diff hanger on the passanger side i think it was.

And there was a difference in the clutches and we had to change them also with the flywheel.

Remember this was for an MY... not sure what applies to an L.

If your in Perth Lapsed there are a lot of people around here that would be willing to drop around and have a look and a chat with ya.

Dave

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:50 pm

tank is the same. rear end will bolt in place. need two bolts for teh diff mount (holes are partially in body.) you need the driveshaft and carrier from teh 4wd, box from 4wd,shafts,shifter (there is a height difference.) and a new clutch. fwd vs 4wd is different as fwd is smaller.

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:59 pm

What is the price for a new clutch? also i need to replace the cv joints what are they worth as well??

cheers for the info

chris

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:05 pm

centreforce was $400 from memory. not sure on CVs.

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:38 pm

Well there are at least two types of clutches for the L-series gearboxes. I'm not sure if the diffenence is 4WD/2WD or turbo/non-turbo - however, if you've got a 3.9:1 gearbox I know it uses the same clutch as the turbo model 3.7:1 gearbox.

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:16 pm

I just bought a standard daikin clutch for $300

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:27 pm

mmm so a clutch is going to cost me more than the wreck did.

chris

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:36 pm

yup. they aint cheap.

daza · Post by **daza** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:14 pm

I bought a clutch kit for my L 5speed conversion from SuperCrap,
handles everything a worn out ea81 can give it

I think it cost me $160
Daza.

Lapsed · Post by **Lapsed** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:30 pm

also where would i get a rubber boot for the rear axle, one of mine have split

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:44 pm

Any good auto parts place should have the universal boots, these are what I use.

Part number for Coventrys would be CVB-19001.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:17 pm

Its kind of hinted at, but not made clear & can be a bitch to do, but the fwd shell doesn't have the mounts for the centre bearing of the tailshaft welded in.

Cut the part of the trans tunnel where these mounts are and grind the floor off the mounts.
After the rest of the 4wd gear is fitted, bolt these mounts to the tailshaft.
Bolt the tailshaft into the car so you can line up the mounts to the underneath of the tunnel.
Put a couple of spot welds on them to temporarily hold them in place, then unbolt the tailshaft & remove it so you can do proper welds. Subaru puts them on with spots welds, but when I did mine, I had them fillet welded around the sides completely.

Don't forget to remove the front seats, centre console & lift the carpet up or you'll burn it with the welding.

Or you could just get a one piece tailshaft made up.