Speed Cameras in WA

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:22 pm

nachaluva wrote:
Apparently the Vic government makes about $400,000,000 per year from camera revenue!

But if everybody stuck to the speed limit, they wouldn't make any revenue

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:13 am

Silverbullet wrote:Which European country/city is it that actually has no speed limits? I'm not talking about the German Autobahn, there is actually a city where people are trusted to go the speed they think is safe. Contrary to what you might think, everybody does the right thing and accidents went down dramatically.
Not sure if that would work here though, what with commodore drivers and boy racers

My speedo consistently indicates 10 km/h above my actual speed, so indicated 60 I'm actually doing 50. Haven't gotten a ticket yet Although I do take it into account and drive at indicated 70 in 60 zones so I don't get tailgated, but people still tailgate and overtake...Dunno what their rush is we all end up stopped at the same traffic lights anyway.

dubai doesnt have speed limits... alcohol is also completely illegal there

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:20 am

Gannon wrote:But if everybody stuck to the speed limit, they wouldn't make any revenue

and no lives would be lost either , would be the governments view point.

wish i could find an article that was forecasting an increase of road death tol in yars to come for various reasons. One obvious reason is an increasing population, increasing number of drivers and cars and kilometers covered.

The annual death toll is only expressed as a number of lives lost, not a percentage of the population

NachaLuva · Post by **NachaLuva** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:52 pm

steptoe wrote:and no lives would be lost either , would be the governments view point.

If only that were true. You will often hear on the news report on a fatality that "speed was a factor"...

Well no s**t! Speed is a factor in all accidents...its pretty hard to have an accident when both cars are stationary!

What they should say is excessive speed...driving at an unsafe speed for the conditions, which i am against people doing, also talking/texting on the phone, doing make-up, eating breakfast (cereal...yes a bowl of cereal complete with milk!), reading the paper or a novel. All of which i have seen people do!

All of which are dangerous & stupid at ANY speed.

IMHO...

Silverbullet wrote:Which European country/city is it that actually has no speed limits? I'm not talking about the German Autobahn, there is actually a city where people are trusted to go the speed they think is safe. Contrary to what you might think, everybody does the right thing and accidents went down dramatically.
Not sure if that would work here though, what with commodore drivers and boy racers

years ago in some NZ towns they had a "LSZ"...Limited Speed Zone, where there wasnt an official speed limit, just what the officer thinks is a safe speed for the conditions. Not sure if they still exist though. Very subjective too...

taza · Post by **taza** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:43 pm

Since ive been back in Geraldton for less than 24hours I have seen 6 speed camera's set up all over the place.
Yet on my 2500km trip I just back from I didn't see one. lol
But I couldn't really speed with a loaded up car and boat. hahaha

Brumby Kid · Post by **Brumby Kid** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:51 pm

Yes the autobahn, any speed limit you like and less accidents than we have at 60km/h

Why I here you ask?
DRIVER TRAINING, they are trained so much better than us. I should know.
All i have to do to get my license is pass 8/8 give way questions (easy) And 32/42 Multiple choice, (easy). And then i can drive home

Ive done the practice test online. They are so strait forward!
Ok yes most of our accidents are caused by excessive speed, and or alcohol and drugs. BUT the amount of times someone runs a red light and gets hit, or gets hit at a intersection etc.
The other day mud king in his merc hit someone side on and royally f***ed her door. She ran a red light, he couldn't stop in time (you wouldn't expect he could).
All when the person was going at 60km/h or less. Dad was rear ended, the person slipped off the brake pedal.

Cheers Cam

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:48 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:The other day mud king in his merc hit someone side on and royally f***ed her door. She ran a red light, he couldn't stop in time (you wouldn't expect he could).
All when the person was going at 60km/h or less. Dad was rear ended, the person slipped off the brake pedal.

Cheers Cam

she decided she wanted to be in my lane haha i guess she,s now learnt why to always check blindspots

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:51 pm

you make it sound so much worse then it was

Brumby Kid · Post by **Brumby Kid** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:02 pm

mud_king91 wrote:you make it sound so much worse then it was

Sorry, i was making it sound worse for her not you. You were scratch free right?
Just trying to argue my point that the system fails. Making the age older is going to do jack s**t. just means the accidents will be older. Same with the age of P platers. Just means their will be more P plater accidents as their will be more of them.
We need training!!!

Cheers a very frustrated and scared Cam

sven '2' · Post by **sven '2'** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:31 pm

Brumby Kid wrote:Yes the autobahn, any speed limit you like and less accidents than we have at 60km/h

Cheers Cam

Hmmm, not sure about that - what is your source Cam?

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:29 pm

2nd Hand Yank wrote:I've been here since Feb 2011 and at first it seemed WA had only a few, but now I'm starting to see them almost everywhere. I've been flashed a few times and had one ticket mailed to me, though I believe I was never driving recklessly, just matching the current road conditions.

I've seen on websites that talk about them, saying the new govt. in WA is short on cash, under funding for the police dept, so speed cameras are supposed to be there to compensate, even raise revenue...

Yep. We in vic have more speed cameras than the rest of Australia put together! Our state government even budgets for the expected income from speeding fines...

95Liberty wrote:u almost have 2 stare at speedometer instead of the road nowdays

Sad but true, especially in the suburbs where you need your eyes on the road the most.

2nd Hand Yank wrote:A great idea, but mine doesn't have cruise control.

Add it. Not hard to do and costs about the same as the smallest fine for speeding that you can get here in vic.

nachaluva wrote:Personally i wouldnt have a problem with speed cameras if they were outside schools or accident black spots. But they're not! they're just a means of government revenue now

Apparently the Vic government makes about $400,000,000 per year from camera revenue! No wonder theres so many of em here.

Plus theres been no PROVEN link to show they actually reduce road fatalities. In fact they may actually increase the frequency of accidents by forcing drivers to watch their speedo instead of the road ahead.

There are several councils overseas that are actually removing speed cameras.

imho...

That ^ and I wouldn't be opposed to them IF the revenue raised through fines went back into the road infrastructure and the public transport system.

Brumby Kid wrote:Yes the autobahn, any speed limit you like and less accidents than we have at 60km/h

sven '2' wrote:Hmmm, not sure about that - what is your source Cam?

Dunno about cam's source, but I think you'll find that in the NT their fatality rate has gone up since introducing the max legal limit as 130km/h.

Yankee, if you've got oversized tyres as you've said, you should be much more conscious of your speed!

Cheers

Bennie

Post by **Alex** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:36 pm

Germany does have a lower fatality rate, but they drive audis and bmws which are designed for high speed and 100 times safer than a frikin commonwhore.

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2nd Hand Yank · Post by **2nd Hand Yank** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:55 pm

El_Freddo wrote: Yankee, if you've got oversized tyres as you've said, you should be much more conscious of your speed!

Cheers

Bennie

Who's the Yankee? Me? Hahaha.

If I was a Yankee, I might be in Florida or Texas instead of Oz;
suitable weather, cheaper cost of living and an easier move from Toronto.

The weather in Australia definitely suitable,
but I'm 12 hours time difference from home, as well as in the opposite hemisphere.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:59 pm

2nd Hand Yank wrote:
Who's the Yankee? Me? Hahaha.

Right on the money mate. I know you're canadian, but since you're name is 2nd hand yank I thought it appropriate, what else are we going to call you for short??

Cheers

Bennie

mud_king91 · Post by **mud_king91** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:52 am

[quote="Brumby Kid"]Sorry, i was making it sound worse for her not you. You were scratch free right?
Just trying to argue my point that the system fails. Making the age older is going to do jack s**t. just means the accidents will be older. Same with the age of P platers. Just means their will be more P plater accidents as their will be more of them.
We need training!!!

Cheers a very frustrated and scared Cam[/QUbut a scrape on my bumper which i repaired yesterday and DENTED MY CHROME WORK!!!!!!!! NOT HAPPY!!!!!

Brumby Kid · Post by **Brumby Kid** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:07 am

Oh, that chrome is hard to fix.
My source, can't remember, but it was on a tv program and thats one of the facts i remember hearing.

2nd Hand Yank · Post by **2nd Hand Yank** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:30 am

El_Freddo wrote:Right on the money mate. I know you're canadian, but since you're name is 2nd hand yank I thought it appropriate, what else are we going to call you for short??

Cheers

Bennie

I've spent a lot of time in the SE USA where you might hear
"...Callin' me a Yankee? Them's fightn' words!...." (US Southerners)

It just reminded me of a lot of things.

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:39 am

Hijack thread commence

Germany and Australia have a very similar rate of road deaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate

The roads in Germany are of a better design as are the cars but the rate is still comparable. to the scientific eye perhaps worse because of the advances in technology and driving conditions.

Please remember about a third of the Autobahn is speed unlimited the rest of it has limits either temporary or permanent. There is the Richtgeschwindigkeit as well.

as for the Autobahn being safe youtube seems to think different type in "autobahn accident" for a list that is very comprehensive.

Now if you want to go fast I suggest the road from Singapore to Kuala Lumpur, where the speed limits are governed by how many ringget you have in your wallet when the nice police officer stops you for speeding.

Hijack over

TOONGA