Low Range: how low can you go?
Low Range: how low can you go?
im dropping an ej22 into my L pretty soon. we're looking at going the Awd dual range gearbox out of the same liberty as the engine, but with the L series low range as its the lowest of the subarus. However, that being said, theres still a lot of difference between the L low range and a proper 4wd's low range.
just wondering if anyone has tried dropping the low range out of any other 4wd into a liberty box?
Just throwing around ideas, but im pretty sure with the torque of the ej i shouldnt be needing too much lower gearing.
cheers
just wondering if anyone has tried dropping the low range out of any other 4wd into a liberty box?
Just throwing around ideas, but im pretty sure with the torque of the ej i shouldnt be needing too much lower gearing.
cheers
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2 inch lift, cut guards, 27" tires with 14" sunraysiers, loved it!!
my current subie
L series, all the normal lift with big wheels (27" BFG ATR's), custom front and rear bars with rear tire swinger, roof racks and some other goodies. soon to have a snorkel and a nice ej22 dropped in it along with a gearbox which i havent decided on yet
2 inch lift, cut guards, 27" tires with 14" sunraysiers, loved it!!
my current subie
L series, all the normal lift with big wheels (27" BFG ATR's), custom front and rear bars with rear tire swinger, roof racks and some other goodies. soon to have a snorkel and a nice ej22 dropped in it along with a gearbox which i havent decided on yet
If you can get a awd box from a forester 20l motor you will get a bit better low range than a liberty.
I have never heard of any other gear set going in a subaru box
If you want the l-series low range in a liberty there is a thread about it on this site
Jan
I have never heard of any other gear set going in a subaru box
If you want the l-series low range in a liberty there is a thread about it on this site
Jan
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hm I very much doubt you'd find a gear that would fit in but definitely let us know if you do!
Lowest available in Subaru is 1.5:1.
I'm putting 2.27:1 in mine, but this is by fitting a whole separate divorced transfer case from a Nissan 720 ute Not practical for most.
Lowest available in Subaru is 1.5:1.
I'm putting 2.27:1 in mine, but this is by fitting a whole separate divorced transfer case from a Nissan 720 ute Not practical for most.
EZ30 L series - Monsterwagon
https://www.ausubaru.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=26163
https://www.ausubaru.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=26163
transfer cases in normal 4x4s work differently and wont work mate.
and just for reference i got 3.1 reduction gears in the transfer case in my patrol
davo
and just for reference i got 3.1 reduction gears in the transfer case in my patrol
davo
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Change the crown wheel & pinion + rear diff to 4.44, should give you about another 20% reduction.
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That aftermarket gear is the same ratio as L series anyway I think.
EZ30 L series - Monsterwagon
https://www.ausubaru.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=26163
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from the scorpion site
ALBINS LOW RANGE 2.5 FORESTER
1.58:1
INPUT GEAR = 20
MATING H-GEAR = 22
H-DRIVING GEAR = 16
MAIN DRIVEN GEAR = 23
Always driven divided by driving
Multiply 1st ratio by 2nd
I.E. 22 / 20 = 1.1
23 / 16 = 1.4375
1.1 x 1.4375 = 1.58 : 1
STANDARD FORESTER 2.5
1.196:1
INPUT GEAR = 22
MATING H-GEAR = 20
H-DRIVING GEAR = 19
MAIN DRIVEN GEAR = 25
A- 20 / 22 = .9090909
B- 25 / 19 = 1.31578
A x B = 1.196
STANDARD FORESTER 2.0
1.447:1
INPUT GEAR = 20
H DRIVEN GEAR = 22
H-DRIVING GEAR = 19
MAIN DRIVEN GEAR = 25
A - 22 / 20 = 1.1
B - 25 / 19 = 1.315789
A X B = 1.447
L-SERIES NON TURBO
1.59:1
INPUT GEAR = 19
H – DRIVEN = 23
H – DRIVING = 19
MAIN DRIVEN = 25
A – 23 / 19 = 1.21
B – 25 / 19 = 1.3158
A X B = 1.59
the beauty of the scorpion gearset is it needs no modfication (other than changing the gears) to fit into the 5mt subaru boxes
TOONGA
ALBINS LOW RANGE 2.5 FORESTER
1.58:1
INPUT GEAR = 20
MATING H-GEAR = 22
H-DRIVING GEAR = 16
MAIN DRIVEN GEAR = 23
Always driven divided by driving
Multiply 1st ratio by 2nd
I.E. 22 / 20 = 1.1
23 / 16 = 1.4375
1.1 x 1.4375 = 1.58 : 1
STANDARD FORESTER 2.5
1.196:1
INPUT GEAR = 22
MATING H-GEAR = 20
H-DRIVING GEAR = 19
MAIN DRIVEN GEAR = 25
A- 20 / 22 = .9090909
B- 25 / 19 = 1.31578
A x B = 1.196
STANDARD FORESTER 2.0
1.447:1
INPUT GEAR = 20
H DRIVEN GEAR = 22
H-DRIVING GEAR = 19
MAIN DRIVEN GEAR = 25
A - 22 / 20 = 1.1
B - 25 / 19 = 1.315789
A X B = 1.447
L-SERIES NON TURBO
1.59:1
INPUT GEAR = 19
H – DRIVEN = 23
H – DRIVING = 19
MAIN DRIVEN = 25
A – 23 / 19 = 1.21
B – 25 / 19 = 1.3158
A X B = 1.59
the beauty of the scorpion gearset is it needs no modfication (other than changing the gears) to fit into the 5mt subaru boxes
TOONGA
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And the beast is the cost of the unit + fitment!TOONGA wrote:the beauty of the scorpion gearset is it needs no modfication (other than changing the gears) to fit into the 5mt subaru boxes
I've been wondering if the gearbox casing can be modified to fit an "auxiliary" low range gear set via the standard low range gearing. Huge modification would be needed - naturally. The idea hinges off cutting the idler gear set in half to make them independent of each other then have another set of gear like another gearbox off the side of these gears to give you extra low range or even a couple of choices. Would be good, dunno about strength/reliability and would definitely rule out turbo model subi's as I'd imagine the reduction gears to take up some of this space.
Dreams... What else can you do?
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Bennie