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Searching for a needle in a haystack

Post by phantomD » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:47 pm

Hi all,

So here begins my laborious, intensive, depressing and uneventful search for a very hard-to-find Subaru part - the twin Hitachi carburettor setup (with manifold etc) that came with the dual-port head EA81 engines.

Some of you may ask why bother with this - and it is indeed a good question you ask. Personally, I like the EA81. It is a solid, reliable engine and with this upgrade would go well enough to make it bearable - I'm not after a race car. Also, the setup would be going on an EA81 that has barely done 30 000km - no need to pull this engine out yet, although some might argue that I should do that for preservation's sake.

I have rung around wreckers, hunted through the Internet, posted on forums, spoken to friends and generally torn my hair out, especially when I missed an eBay auction for this exact thing by two days. :(

Now that I have beat around the bush, we move on to the "point" of this post. I would like some suggestions please as to where I should be trying to find one of these setups.

And finally, if one of you has such a setup lying around that you would be willing to part with then I will be forever grateful.

Thanks in advance,
phantomD

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I hear rebuild kits for these are VERY hard to find? Can anybody shed more light?

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Post by sven '2' » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:13 am

Understand your quest

The twin carb set up on the ever reliable EA81 is very desirable.

2 suggestions -

Subawreck in Adel - not that he (Paul) would have any in stock as such, but has a least a couple of customers who have them on their vehicles - never know your luck...

Other is the US - rumor has it they are slightly less hard to come across - try USMB for a start.

Then there are the also gyrocopter nutcases that like subie engines - maybe worth a shot googling them??

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Post by steptoe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:01 pm

HT 413 is the carby kit I got for each of mine. Goss or fuel miser brand

Ask your parts guys if they have that listed and available

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Post by steptoe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:04 pm

Found reference to Fuel Miser brand for normal single carb on EA81 and it is HT425, so i say go research Fuel Miser HT413 and you will find kit TIMES TWO to do twin carbs

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Post by steptoe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:07 pm

Googled it to find I have answered this question about same time of year in 2008 and 2009, and again 20,10


Good luck with your search Nu Ziland perhaps - contact isnowi for tips

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Post by phantomD » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:19 pm

Thank you sven and steptoe. Sven - on the gyrocopter point - any suggestions for forums? I have tried one already but it doesn't seem to have much activity.

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Post by phantomD » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:22 pm

Apologies - another question - is it possible to fit an auto choke to each of these carbies?

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Post by sven '2' » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:32 pm

phantomD wrote:Thank you sven and steptoe. Sven - on the gyrocopter point - any suggestions for forums? I have tried one already but it doesn't seem to have much activity.
No sorry - been some time since i've had NA cars and mucking around with the dream of twins...hmmmm...twins

I do recall a set up with essentially a carb on each cylinder head, with a complicated linkage system

Steptoe, much for yours?!? Can The Phantom save the day??

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Post by steptoe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:47 pm

mine have tiwn manual chokes - not in use as i run LPG through them now, removed venturi guts, floats, blocked up acc pump holes etc

Carb over each head was safari set up or NZ rally pack from the dealers in NZ

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Post by phantomD » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:33 am

Subawreck - I actually rang them a little while ago and I was very impressed by Paul's knowledge, he has a few sitting down there but they're not for sale. :(

Thanks for all the suggestions so far - I'm certainly trying!!!!

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Post by TOONGA » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:02 am

its at times like this that I wish I had taken photos of my twin carb setup as it had twin auto chokes and the factory aircleaner. it was a bugger to get gasket kits for as one carby had a different gasket kit to the other.

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Post by phantomD » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:11 am

Oh, I had forgotten that you had that setup, what happened to it?

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Post by TOONGA » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:32 am

it is somewhere on the West Australian coastline

I sold the wagon to a guy in Lancelin (north of Perth) and it was never heard from again

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Post by sven '2' » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:15 pm

phantomD wrote:Subawreck - I actually rang them a little while ago and I was very impressed by Paul's knowledge, he has a few sitting down there but they're not for sale. :(!
I've known Paul for 15 years...everything is for sale, you just need to offer enough of that sweet sweet folding green!!

Goodluck - will watch this thread with interest.

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Post by steptoe » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:02 am

I made a factory look air filter box out of about three single carby housings all cut up and spot welded up for me by an old panel beater and it actually sat forward a smidge enough to wear a 14 inch spare, painted in close to original blue too

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Post by spike » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:00 pm

the two at subawreck are NOT for sale!!!
they do not belong to paul they belong to his daughter and i can gaurentee they aint selling them

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Post by sven '2' » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:12 pm

spike wrote:the two at subawreck are NOT for sale!!!
they do not belong to paul they belong to his daughter and i can gaurentee they aint selling them
Can you make a manifold to suit with your family business?

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