EJ18 have I got a lemon re import model

[vdubrod]

Where is your album?

Why did you give my post a 'thumbs down' ?

Suparoo I did not mean to give you a thumbs down I am a novice must done it by accident
Did you find the album

[vdubrod]

his album is here

album.php?albumid=48

awsome looking Karman Ghia and as for the kombi cool

I knew a guy when I was 14 who had an old grey motor (a 149 I think) in his kombi with a radiator mounted on the bullbar on the front and pipes running to the motor he could wind it off the speedo

the police were most unamused with it and placed a red sticker on the windscreen

a question about the distributor as it looks like the stand alone unit does it have a plug with 3 or 4 pins or does it have 2 wires coming out of it ?

and I know from speaking to a member from New Zealand that the carby and dizzy option were available there its just a matter of getting them to Australia

TOONGA

Toonga thanks for your help how easy would it be to get the replacement EFI stuff here?

[Gannon]

You have the distributor, so all you should need to do is apply power to the distributor, disconnect all the efi stuff and put your carby.

I have a wiring diagram somewhere, i'll dig it up for you.

Im assuming that you simply took the TBI unit off the intake manifold. I see that the manifold is kinda like the earlier EA in a way. It has the water passage running through it to keep it from icing and it doesnt rise up like the MPFI EJ. Its more like a MPFI EA

Oh and i saw your album, very nice car!

[vdubrod]

Suparoo
that is how the engine came and dizzy that is on it is an EFI one so it wont work without an ECU I thought as there is no advancement in it and it only acts as a trigger to time the ECU. I would still like to go with the carbies but how hard is it to obtain MPI stuff and fit it to the engine then the current dizzy can stay and maybe need new manifold, throttle body coil pack Ecu what else.

[TOONGA]

vdubrod

I don't know that it would work with the dizzy if you used the mpfi ecu
you would have to source a single point ecu and all of the bits to go with it

otherwise you would need to go to a coil pack and mpfi ecu manifold injectors etc and pull the dizzy out and cover the hole with a cap

it isn't a hard thing to do and I know there are plenty of ecus and complete mpfi setups available you will just need to source knock sensors O2 sensors etc

TOONGA

[El_Freddo]

Vdubrod,

To source the EFI gear to get this going (with the efi of course) you can use the liberty 2.2 litre intake manifold, ECU, wiring and exhaust manifold. You might want to source some 1.8 litre sized injectors, otherwise you may be squirting more fuel than you need to be...

If you're going to do this it'd probabily worth just dropping the 2.2 litre (EJ22) in rather than the 1.8 ltr. But if you're doing it for rego and keeping under a restricted capacity increase I can see why you'd want the 1.8 litre.

Going for the EJ EFI will be a learning curve, but it is a good one and in the ride direction of a reliable, start when you want it to motor...

The liberty IMO is easier to find in wreckers than an impreza that'd have the 1.8 litre EFI system you're after.

If you do go for the EFI system, grab all the wiring, sensors etc from that vehicle, that way you know it worked before you got it and will remove the hastles that can arise from piecing the EFI wiring and sensors together.

Cheers

Bennie

[GOD]

Vdubrod,

To source the EFI gear to get this going (with the efi of course) you can use the liberty 2.2 litre intake manifold, ECU, wiring and exhaust manifold. You might want to source some 1.8 litre sized injectors, otherwise you may be squirting more fuel than you need to be...

Actually, no you can't if you ever want it to run properly. EJ22 electronics will run an EJ18, but it won't idle, won't make full power and will use lots of fuel.

I will soon have a chopped EJ18 loom, ECU, sensors, injectors, etc available if you're interested, vdubrod.

Dane.

[TOONGA]

be a devil stick with the plan

twin webers and an electronic dizzy

TOONGA

[Gannon]

Suparoo
that is how the engine came and dizzy that is on it is an EFI one so it wont work without an ECU

Yeah as i was driving to work (about 10 minutes after i posted the reply) i realised that yes, the dizzy has a cam angle sensor that sends a signal to the ECU, which then looks up a timing map and then outputs a pulse back to the dizzy to fire the coil.

Are the Ford dizzys hard to come by?

[TOONGA]

It took me 3 hours of walking around a wrecking yard looking at toyotas, hyundis, mitsubishis, and then right behind the subarus was a ford meteor on top of some other ford sedan so some precarious balancing and 10 minutes later I had a dizzy which with a small adaptor plate will fit

TOONGA

[seagull]

max is keeping now

[TOONGA]

if I hadn't seen your post seagull I would really be wondering what Max is keeping

does he want an ej18 for each foot?

Ive been told that all you need is an ignition module and a coil and you will be able to run that engine using the supplied dizzy, get in touch with the member RSR 555 for more details

TOONGA

[RSR 555]

We did this a long time ago in a Brumby and it worked well but just having a really good read over your post I see you have a non-vacuum advance dizzy. I'm not sure how it would go without it? not too good up hills I'd say

[isnowi]

The trouble with the 'dizzy' on the spfi motors is that the camshaft is different, it has an extension that is effectivelt the main shaft of the dizzy, the dizzy itself is nothing more than a backing plate with an oil seal around the camshaft extension, a rotor screws to the extension shaft, and a dizzy cap attaches to the base. Thus it's hard to adapt another dizzy to it. The easiest would be to use the heads off a mpfi motor as they don't have the extension on the cam shaft, and will take the dizzy's as described above.

In spite of the apparant plentiful number of carbed legacy's over here (nz) i am still trying to track one down that's been wrecked. I'm doing a similar motor build, using an ej20 and 36idf's to go in a brumby.

[Gannon]

I would have though there might be a Nissan distributor that might fit, seeing that Subaru shared a lot of technology with Nissan in the 90's

[isnowi]

FYI, impreza sourced ej20's (sohc 1996) do not have the slot in the end of the camshaft to run a dizzy.

[RSR 555]

Cheers for the info.. I would machine a adapter piece to utilize those 2 dowel holes with the correct instep on the round section.

[isnowi]

i may do that, would be easy enough to do by machining the tongue off a stock coupling and drilling it for couple of roll pins, trouble is those holes are only 2.5mm deep.

Otherwise i could have the slot machined into the camshaft easily enough, i doubt the change in balance would have too much effect.

[RSR 555]

That would work fine.. the holes don't need to be too deep as the are only turning a small shaft in the dizzy and balance is minimal too

[mattl200]

Vdubrod,

To source the EFI gear to get this going (with the efi of course) you can use the liberty 2.2 litre intake manifold, ECU, wiring and exhaust manifold. You might want to source some 1.8 litre sized injectors, otherwise you may be squirting more fuel than you need to be...

to do this you would have to keep the ej22 injectors as ej22s are airflow based the ecu would compinsate for this (assuming the ecu dosent go into limp mode)

and i dont know if this engine has the mounting points for the cam and crank angle sensors or the notches on the cam wheel and crank wheel