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Headlight DRAMA!!

Post by H-top » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:58 am

my headlights don't work!
all three wires to the bulb are showing up with positive in them.
i test the bulbs independently and the bulbs still work high
and low beam. what could be the drama?
and my indicator/cop flasher no longer operates the headlights?

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Post by Gannon » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:43 pm

Here is a very rough sketch of how your lights are wired

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Have you got 12v at all light terminals when the both globes are in? or when they are out?


I think the problem is in-between the globes and the switch, or the switch and ground
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Post by H-top » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:08 pm

ive got 12v when the bulbs are in
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Post by AndrewT » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:19 pm

Check the "earths" - connections to the body.

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Post by steptoe » Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:03 pm

You not said which one you have this trouble with , I can understand forgetting in your panic :)

These buggers MY and L seem to switch the earth for the lights so bulbs wire end likely to have power all the time, but no earth. I recall them switchng both power pos and earth?

So confuse the confusion outta you if used to normal hook up. Pull headlight and turn combo switch out and tinker with it. I think if the high beam circuit is unhappy it won't power up or earth up low beam circuit. Check fuses, relays (little round aluminum canned ones above fuse panel (requiring neck craning) and the earths anywhere and everywhere. Were you doing somethng before with electrical or lights that may have helped this event?

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Post by H-top » Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:12 pm

its with my new Vortex, its how it came, but apparently it passes a roady 12 months ago
and has not been touched since.
so could it be something that perishes?
lol i sure am in a panic lol
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Post by maxxair » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:50 pm

1 vote for the switch/stalk is f'd in the a'hole.
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Post by H-top » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:01 pm

i hope not lol. hard to get another one
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Post by H-top » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:08 pm

its only a late model stalk too. i've got others but only for the early ones :(

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Post by steptoe » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:09 pm

so....you need to update your sig. Some auto electricians are good with just the switch if you can get it out and drop it in to them to fiddle or test.

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Post by H-top » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:34 pm

so something that could be repaired?
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Post by steptoe » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:20 pm

They may be able to test the combo switch in the first place - assuming the wedge has same set up as the L's with high beam and high beam flasher in the stalk. Have seen a Troopy combo unit in to the auto elecs for test and a few repair attempts. Worth a shot.

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Post by H-top » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:59 pm

So give them the switch or the whole car?
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Post by steptoe » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:48 pm

Best to ask the chosen auto elec first. If you cannot drive car legally on roads, taking switch first may be easiest for all involved.

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Post by tony » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:44 am

Silly question, but have you got the ignition turned to run? these lights only work with the ignition on.

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Post by Gannon » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:02 am

One question, do your lights come on when you pull the combi-switch to 'flash' your headlights?

Here are some diagrams i have dug up.

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Now if you turn the ignition on, and disconnect plug i90, on the car side, you should have 12v at terminals C and D. This means the wiring from the headlights is intact. Plug it back in.


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Now unplug i86 and on the car side you should have 12v on pin 4.

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Post your results and we'll go from there
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Post by steptoe » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:45 pm

chasing negative switching too???

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Post by H-top » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:34 pm

am away from home will test on sunday, thanks so much for the help thus far lol
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Post by H-top » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:00 pm

did not have the time to fix it unfortunately.
took it to an auto elecy, told me it was rooted
and installed a foot activated light switch.
$200 later, i was pretty happy.
if i find another switch i'll install that

thanx for the help team!

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