Is my WRX STi or not?

Brumby Kid · Post by **Brumby Kid** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:50 am

You will get the "agreed value"
On my statement it has the cars details, extras and what they are roughly worth. Nominated drivers etc
And then it has an agreed value, no idea how this is worked out or how much say you get into it. This value goes down slightly all the time. (Deprechetion)
This is the value you get if it is written off.

Cheers Cam

Tomi · Post by **Tomi** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:36 pm

So if the car is only covered by 3rd party fire and theft, the insurance company won't care too much about the car and if it's modified?

tambox · Post by **tambox** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:47 pm

No you still have to tell them everything, although sometimes they asume the car is standard, unless you actually tell them.'
If the car is not as per VIN and you havent told them about any mods, they can still cancel the policy.
Although from what I have seen, if the accident is minor, they do not look at your car, but they may. So its a risk if you dont tell them everything.

d_generate · Post by **d_generate** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:33 am

Yeah you should clarify it with them but I never declared anything on mine when it was insured for fire and theft with RAC and they never asked, though I didn't make a claim either, depends who it is too because I remember when I went full comp after not having a car fully insured for over 30yrs RAC didn't want to see the car but wanted it to go over the pits and would only insure it for max 8k agreed, Just Car wanted me to take it to them for a full inspection and Shannons had a quick look and insured it for 14k @ about $560 per annum full comp and 60% NCB, so they are all different, best to shop around. Shannons assessor didn't even look at the mods when they wrote it off though it was parked in my driveway during the storm, best thing was after I beat the assessor down from $5,500 to $4,000 buy back I went out about 30min later and blew the doors off a Maserati....Twice hahahaha.

Another weird thing is I could park the Liberty anywhere at my home but I had to garage my WRX which was insured for less, luckily being a conversion you shouldn't have these restrictions.

Tomi · Post by **Tomi** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:48 pm

Okay we finally got the registration paper... The engine number matches the one stamped on the block (not the proper engine number but at least it's a number) and the VIN matches as well. One very interesting thing on the rego papers is the condition that's down the bottom of the page. It says "Conditions: 302 Vehicle exempted from fitment of compliance plate."

Post by **Alex** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:59 pm

Tomi wrote:Okay we finally got the registration paper... The engine number matches the one stamped on the block (not the proper engine number but at least it's a number) and the VIN matches as well. One very interesting thing on the rego papers is the condition that's down the bottom of the page. It says "Conditions: 302 Vehicle exempted from fitment of compliance plate."

great! sounds like the conversion has been done properly!

alex

Tomi · Post by **Tomi** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:55 pm

A couple days ago, we went to see a guy about fixing up the paint on the car. Turns out that guy knew a lot about Impreza's. The car's VIN is from 1993 but car has '98 WRX interior, '98 WRX engine with a '02-'03 STI manifold. This car has quite a history to it...

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:00 pm

Alex wrote:great! sounds like the conversion has been done properly!

alex

Sure does, still when Paul gets back he could look over the car to make sure it is all done correctly. (don't for get the CC's)

Tomi wrote:Okay we finally got the registration paper... The engine number matches the one stamped on the block (not the proper engine number but at least it's a number) and the VIN matches as well. One very interesting thing on the rego papers is the condition that's down the bottom of the page. It says "Conditions: 302 Vehicle exempted from fitment of compliance plate."

I don't get it "(not the proper engine number but at least it's a number)" if it is the one on the back left of the block near the starter motor

then it is the correct engine number.

Love the last bit "Conditions: 302 Vehicle exempted from fitment of compliance plate." ... so what size engine would you like to fit?

TOONGA

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:09 pm

TOONGA wrote:I don't get it "(not the proper engine number but at least it's a number)" if it is the one on the back left of the block near the starter motor

Yeah this raises an alarm with me. Any way of checking the actual engine number on a data base to find out if the donor vehicle was stolen? This is one reason why I'd assume a secondary engine number was used - how they did this I wouldn't know.

Before states talked to eachother, if they actually do I'm not 100% on, but there's a story about an investigation into car rebirthing. After running through the data base of several states they found 4 or 5 V8's with the same engine number. Forensic testing on the engine block showed that the original number had been ground off and a new one stamped on from a legitimate car that was Stolen and recovered in the state that the investigation originated from...

I hope it's not the case, and if it is that it was dealt with a long time ago so you don't have another issue/hassle on your hands with this vehicle.

Cheers

Bennie

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:38 pm

Bennie I believe he thinks that the engine number should start with EJ, and probably have a "T" in it as well which it didn't have from the factory.

Lets not start the whole is it stolen bit again...

TOONGA

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:49 pm

TOONGA wrote:Bennie I believe he thinks that the engine number should start with EJ, and probably have a "T" in it as well which it didn't have from the factory.

Lets not start the whole is it stolen bit again...

Yeah fair enough. I didn't think about that...

Cheers

Bennie

d_generate · Post by **d_generate** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:14 pm

Congratulations, looks like you got a legit car with some nice mods but ...... the intake manifold from an 01/2 STI would not fit those heads as they have offset holes, I can assure you yours is a 94-96 from top to bottom, pics of my old offroader and yours.

Mine = same same

Yours = same same

02 STI, kinda sorta TOTALLY different lol.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:15 am

El_Freddo wrote: Any way of checking the actual engine number on a data base to find out if the donor vehicle was stolen? This is one reason why I'd assume a secondary engine number was used - how they did this I wouldn't know.

Cheers

Bennie

From my experience, some , if not all or most states RTA data recording systems do not use a check for the correct engine number or VIN sequence - as in the system does not reject a VIN so long as 17 numbers and letters have been provided, and will take anything for an engine number. It does not use national data sheets examples provided to inspectors or online as a comparison for correct entry - as you'd expect in order to reduce errors.

This error then has been carried on by er cough, an engineer doing a certificate - takes numbers off papers and not actual vehicle so the error is taken a little further down the line.
However, vigilant staff reject applications for Subarus if the engine prefix code ( EJ22, EA82 etc) ,is not included with the engine number.

All this allows for an error to say, supply the machining numbers or whatever they are on an EJ block , as an engine number and the systems will take it - just put an EJ20 in front of course to make the counter staff happy

and no one knows any different until someone buys it and needs another inspection causing panic when things don't gel !