Hmm what to do.ej22 vs ea82t. i need some opinions.

[discopotato03]

Practical economics .

IMO if you really want an EJ buy a car with one meaning an early Liberty AWD .

If you want to fit one in an L/MY expect to have lots of removed bits kicking around . I would only do it for project value because having been there before with non native engine conversions I know that they're never as simple as they first seem . Sure you may bolt it in and get everything laid out correctly and then you have to attack the electronics .
The process would be much easier fitting a turbo EJ to a Liberty but even then its a fair bit of work .
We'll assume you get beyond this stage and it operates ok - until you work ot the EJ is a little tired and needs a freshen up . The dollars are starting to stack up here I think .

If you have an EA82T or buy one for a conversion (into an L Series anyway) you know its going to go bolt/plug into an EFI car , your call BTW but I wouldn't convert a carby car given the dough L's sell for .
So you get the EA-T torn down for a freshened up and for not that much extra correct some of the inbuilt fopars ie low static CR and wuzz cams . Personally I think the heads need a bit of reworking which is not super difficult . Assemble it properly bolt it in and start it up . If you wanted more performance go the spider inlet and fab a better exhaust manifold - maybe fit the water/air intercooler . Larger direct fit injectors are available and affordable interceptors ie the Jaycar kit one make correcting the AFR's a simple process .

You end up with a mechanically std car with a std family engine plus a few factory enhancements ie spider . Its easy to service by yourself or any reasonable mechanic and the cops/RTA won't be having hysterics .

I can't see the sense in updating some parts of a car and not others , it may go in a straight line far better than it did originally but as a package other things such as brakes and suspension are generally inadequate . By the time you do the other things that matter you've often spent more that the later car costs to buy and the frankenstein is not worth as much to sell . Over capitalisation is the beancounters term I think and many regularly fall into that trap .

More food for more thought , cheers A .

[SuBaRiNo]

How is an EA82T unique when there is more than one of them getting around?

Maybe im throwing the word Unique too freely. But in our parts they are certainly more unique then say an EJ22 into an L series, thats all.

Dave

[Matatak]

his is unique coz its running a Wrexy turbo and Supra intercooler.

[fredsub]

Is there a count of how many times this has been argued on this forum ?
doesn't fail to bring in the EJ fanatics.
Look,some people will just like the older engine, just for that fact, same like for other cars like fords/oldens people driving the old ones......
the ea82t can be made to be very reliable.

Theres much more discussion and following of ea82t on the USB forum and not so much controversy, so you may want to change which forum you frequent more?

[BlackMale]

Geeeeze AndrewT, what makes you think that I require calming down – please (enlighten me, given that this is my occupation we’re now talking about).

The key to this post of yours is in the “apparently complaining and my taking a personal offence”. I am always up for a GOOD HEALTH DEBATE and am not at all upset by the differing of opinion, as long as its just that.

Agreed, I do not think that its beneficial for lengthy replies which appear to hijack threads. Therefore Andrew, as I alluded to Alex, do not post your personal comments for me in here then thinking that I will not reply, try sending me a PM to resolve.

Therefore, as for the use of the word bias, yes I know what it means, see “predisposition, preconception, predilection, partiality, proclivity; bent, leaning. Bias, prejudice meaning a strong inclination of the mind or a preconceived opinion about something or someone. Therefore bias may be favourable or unfavourable as in bias in-favour of or against an idea”. What your suggesting with Alex and Coke does not even sound close to me, as it would be considered more a conflict of interest as he would be directly profiting from this (there are clear business rules about this).

What I was getting at was more of prejudice, which implies, a preformed judgment even more unreasoning than bias, and usually implies an unfavourable opinion. By this all I was suggesting is that this is what appears to be happening in this thread as people were unable to provide a balanced opinion and would instead make grossly sweeping statements like EJ are far superior in every way to the EA. This could be considered to be a very closed minded approach and not 1 that will generate health discussions (as its only 1 sided). I was not attempting to yell louder, complain more or be any more aggressive then anybody else to get my point across, however yes it would appear that I have had to type far more.

As for the EJ I did not purchase it… must have been that EJ donk – read sarcastically as a JOKE (it that better - lol). Will start another thread for this as to not hijack (further).

We in SA cannot put EJs into Ls, MYs, anything and meet compliance.

Sven, Just so you know I thought that this would have also been a part of the debate in doing this conversion however it appears that it is not. To the best of my knowledge I am only aware of 1 L series EJ conversion getting passed over the pits in WA (It was done by Oversteer and is not owned by a member on this forum). There is no other EJ conversions (again that I am aware of) that has been through the pits, therefore, all the other conversions happening over here are illegal.

Matt congrats on the decision. I am sure you’ll love the EJ power and will Andrew appreciate all the 82T parts. Actually, you know what, everyone is correct go EJ as by doing so you make my conversion even more rare - Thanks. (Oh, see Andrew you and I are both going to profit from this conversion, and you directly, and if said seriously could be interpreted as a conflict of interest however you need to read it sarcastically as a JOKE).

BYB-01, sorry about the last 20 minutes at least you enjoyed it as well tehe.

[discopotato03]

I reckon getting an L to go with an enhanced EA82T is a greater challenge given a choice . I've been very lucky I suppose with finding most of the best factory bits .

Honestly smoothing the EA's design faults is far from impossible , just takes a bit of time and money .

BTW , late update on Ellies developing AWD Turbo Vortex engine build .

Some absolute gem of an individual has had this engine in bits and done some of the yakka for us . For those that don't know we believe EA82T pistons don't come to the tops of the bores in std form and this is part of the reason why thay have the blousy 7.7:1 compression ratio . Mines had the block faces decked and the pistons are proud of the deck by about 10 thou . The CR works out to be ~ 8.6:1 and with about 3-5 off the decks (heads and cases) may rise to ~ 8.7:1 which will work much better with todays 95 oct fuel - and a water/air intercooler .
The original pistons and bores are in mickey mouse condition with a clearance variation of 1 thou .

Another thing thats been nagging me is the spiders TPS and lack of switching to make the 3 plug ECU work . Because I have three tame spiders I can afford to weld the TB face of the plenum up on one and drill/tap/fettle it to suit an early RX/Vortex std manifold type TB with its TPS . Rig up a throttle cable and plug all the "std" sensors in .

Might go ok for a dinosaur this thing , won't look out of place in an L RX-T either . Who needed the extra 30 Kg anyway .

See y'all next year , cheers A .

[AndrewT]

hehe okay Jaffa you win, I really can't be bothered typing anymore. From now on I will just assume all your posts are a joke