Machine Hubs or adaptors.

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:53 pm

What i want to do is put some wrx wheels on my brumby. Not to sure which way to go wether to make some adaptor plates or redrill hubs to suit 5 by 100mm pcd
My brumby has standard front brakes and L sereis rear discs (rare ish) Has a hub which looks the same as the front with different spline.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:39 pm

Best and ultimate way to do it is the crossbred kit...

Otherwise machining would maybe be the next best option.

Bennie

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:03 pm

The Crossbred conversion also gets you WRX brakes and front struts which then allows you to run coilovers. If you plan to keep your ute long term and continue to improve it, you'll probably want them before long anyway.

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:04 pm

I was looking at using some Vt commonwhore twin spot fronts calipers as i have a pair sitting in a box under the bench. Considering making a set of coilovers. Was looking at swaping front calipers and rotors to the rear at some stage and to swap hand brake to rear

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:10 pm

Morcs wrote:I was looking at using some Vt commonwhore twin spot fronts calipers as i have a pair sitting in a box under the bench. Considering making a set of coilovers. Was looking at swaping front calipers and rotors to the rear at some stage and to swap hand brake to rear

= Crossbred kit.

It may cost some coin now but you'll have a streel legal kit that bolts straight on without any screwing around trying to get things to fit.

Bennie

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:27 pm

My best mate is machiniest by trade so adaptors etc are really just a formalaty for him.

My new job also looks like having a work vehicle so it wont be so much as a need to have it running all the time. So i should have time to work on it.

The stopping power of the setup of this thing is very good as it is using cut down VRX green stuff pads in the front on slotted rotors. And sports type pads on the rear. Its very rare that i run out of brakes on it. It has had its fair share of fast braking etc. One very wise old guy said you can have 6 piston brakes but if you cant get rid of the heat out of them or using the wrong rated pads they are as good a set of hot drums(useless) unless you have the right temprature pads that work better at a higher tempratures.

I have also had the front shocks revalved etc to be firmer yet pliable enough to follow the road with some sort of ride quality.

My mates skyline with 18s on has a terrible ride compared to mine,he has had all the aftermarket suspension put in it also.
It will turn in harder etc then his skyline only way he can get near it is on the straights as his has about 280kw at the wheels.

Im not about showing the thing, but i do enjoy the engineering.

My brumby is built as a street sleeper not a show car.

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:33 pm

As far as i can see you would still have to see an engineer with the crossbred kit.
The one that i have used in the past i havent had any worries with As long as everything looks like it is done right he seems to be ok.

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:13 pm

As far as i can see you would still have to see an engineer with the crossbred kit.

Um... no.

The crossbred kit has been pre-approved by an engineer and comes with all necessary papers it needs.

brumbee · Post by **brumbee** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:33 pm

approximately how much is the crossbred kit?

twilightprotege · Post by **twilightprotege** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:59 am

i'd really like to see the simple thing done - just get new "hats" made up. that seams like the easiest way to go. in other words, i dont want bigger brakes just yet - i want small wheels and big tyres.

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:24 pm

Even assuming you could bolt WRX wheels on is this a look thing or a better tyre availability thing .

If its just looks what about those Mini Lite copy wheels than can be ordered to suit the std 4 x 140 stud pattern ?

Also don't think anyone has a monopoly on engineer aproved brake conversions .
Real performance fab shops can make it happen and usually have access to engineers who can test and certify .

With L/MY the difficult aspect is the park brake , usually it moves from the factory front disc calipers to a rear cable caliper or internal drum type affair . Now its your call but you can have cable operated front park brake disc calipers because Vortex XT6's were like this . The XT6 front disc rotors are very similarly sized (from memory 2mm thinner and a couple of mm one way or the other on the diameter) to the basic 1st gen Liberty . Aside from one thread pitch change an L caliper can be made to fit on RS Lib knuckles and discs .

At the back , to machine up an XT6 rear hub is no real challenge , hobbing the internal splines takes a bit more effort but there are machine shops in Australia that can do this .

The best idea is to locate a fab firm that does this kind of thing and get them to bounce a few ideas off their favourite engineer . They'll soon tell them if it's likely to get certification or not . Other than that provided you can get the front/rear brake bias right its a matter of time and money .

Mine WILL be legally certified in NSW and once all sewn up I'll post the firm and anyone can go which ever way they want .

Cheers A .

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:01 pm

If its just looks what about those Mini Lite copy wheels than can be ordered to suit the std 4 x 140 stud pattern ?

Where can you order/get these dont realy care wether second hand or new its frustrating trying to get hi performance 14 inch tyres that fit properly on my rims.

EG 14" 55 195 potenzers I found some second hand ones that were not far of being nonlegal and they were excellent till they were too far gone. My Biggest problem is sidewall distortion with 185 60 14" g3 potenzers. Excellent tyre but the size was letting them down.

If i could get some 15 on it i would be cheering.

Would meen that all my spares etc wouldnt fit any thing at my place any more
with 140 X 4 PCD
If i went to 5 x 100 PCD

My Brumby is all engineered the way it is so would rather not change it to much.
To many other projects on the go at once Also.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:48 pm

Morcs wrote:Where can you order/get these dont realy care wether second hand or new its frustrating trying to get hi performance 14 inch tyres that fit properly on my rims.

If you were buying them new, why not go for a set of 15's? This would dramtically open up the range of tyres available for different intentions.

Cheers

Bennie

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:31 pm

Morcs wrote:Where can you order/get these dont realy care wether second hand or new its frustrating trying to get hi performance 14 inch tyres that fit properly on my rims.

http://www.performancewheels.com.au/superlite.asp