Bantum's '76 Hatch ...
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Bantum's '76 Hatch ...
I also own a 1976 Subaru Wagon ( my first Subaru ) ...
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Sometime ago I had some thoughts on what I could do with it as a project car & came up with this :
& after looking at some other sketch drawings on here recently, thought I'd give it go - and came up with this :
So appart from complete lack of details, this would be a nice 'restoration' project some time in the future ...
Note : The above is not an accurate representation, notice the wipers are back to front ...
Cheers, Bantum ...
Note : See my tag or this link for more photos of existing ...
Sometime ago I had some thoughts on what I could do with it as a project car & came up with this :
& after looking at some other sketch drawings on here recently, thought I'd give it go - and came up with this :
So appart from complete lack of details, this would be a nice 'restoration' project some time in the future ...
Note : The above is not an accurate representation, notice the wipers are back to front ...
Cheers, Bantum ...
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Looking at the drawings, it looks like you've used the body off the MY hatch and used the front nose and back end off the Ugly model.. this would probably be the easiest way to do it from an engineering point and possibly the cheapest way too.
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Options ...
Yep, probaly would be ... all the above is just an idea for the moment ...TOONGA wrote: ... cutting and welding nightmare ...
Another possiblity, as I don't mind the look of front / rear end. Pitty about the odd middle bit ...TOONGA wrote: ... It would probably be easier just to restore the wagon to its former glory ...
Ha not quite, as my intial ideas were to create something unique, a one of a kind ? based on Subaru history for rally cars.RSR 555 wrote: ... Looking at the drawings, it looks like you've used the body off the MY hatch and used the front nose and back end off the Ugly model ...
It could also be a 'preceder' to the MY hatch model ...
But what I had thought of mainly it may be possible to cut the 'Leone' wagon up, shorten it a bit & use another model for longer doors, etc.
All varouis options to be considered ...
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mr sp 33 has some competition !!
No harm in your graphics taking on the 4 dor wagon to look like a 2 door wagon styling whole thing like two tone, colour of front door extending into rear door, colour coding rear door handle to hide it in door colour.
U used the lime greeny yellow colour of MY, not seen that colour for yonks !
Aw, saw a Foz done in carbon fibre vinyl of two textures the other day - looked awesome but hard to rad the ad text
No harm in your graphics taking on the 4 dor wagon to look like a 2 door wagon styling whole thing like two tone, colour of front door extending into rear door, colour coding rear door handle to hide it in door colour.
U used the lime greeny yellow colour of MY, not seen that colour for yonks !
Aw, saw a Foz done in carbon fibre vinyl of two textures the other day - looked awesome but hard to rad the ad text
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Drawing ...
Coming from an architectural background I had to learn how to draw. However I'm only good at the other stuff, as I haven't done a lot of car drawings + no where as good as mr sp 33 ...steptoe wrote: ... mr sp 33 has some competition !! ...
Doesn't hurt to try every now & then ...
It's supposed to be same as the original, but I didn't have the exact match ...steptoe wrote: ... U used the lime greeny yellow colour of MY, not seen that colour for yonks ! ...
Yeah, was going for that classic rally look too ... !
I'm not sure what your talking about there, got any references / images ?steptoe wrote: ... Aw, saw a Foz done in carbon fibre vinyl of two textures the other day - looked awesome but hard to rad the ad text ...
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There are some MY hutchbacks but they're rare as, Getting it engineered and VIV would be an concern because they wouldnt get straight answer until the job is completed and will be a lot of backwards/forwards and long time to get it right. I would restore it as it is.
Cheers
AP
Cheers
AP
Subarus that I have/had:
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic
1995 Liberty "Rallye" - 5MT AWD, LSD - *written off 25/8/06 in towing accident.
1996 Liberty Wagon - SkiFX AWD 5MT D/R, Lifted.. Outback Sway Bar, 1.59:1 Low Gearing see thread: 1.59:1 in EJ Box Page
Sold at 385,000kms in July 2011.
2007 Liberty BP Wagon, 2.5i automatic
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Tailshaft must be pretty short
Current rides: 2016 Mitsubishi Triton GLS & 2004 Forester X
Ongoing Project/Toy: 1987 RX Turbo EA82T, Speeduino ECU, Coil-pack ignition, 440cc Injectors, KONI adjustale front struts, Hybrid L Series/ Liberty AWD 5sp
Past rides: 92 L series turbo converted wagon, 83 Leone GL Sedan, 2004 Liberty GT Sedan & 2001 Outback
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Ongoing Project/Toy: 1987 RX Turbo EA82T, Speeduino ECU, Coil-pack ignition, 440cc Injectors, KONI adjustale front struts, Hybrid L Series/ Liberty AWD 5sp
Past rides: 92 L series turbo converted wagon, 83 Leone GL Sedan, 2004 Liberty GT Sedan & 2001 Outback
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Looks like that's in the US - who in Oz would be told via a sign that you can't do a left hand turn??Bantum wrote:Someone beat me to it ...
And I don't see the point in this other than a show of craftmanship... That short wheel base must make for a pretty rough ride if you're travelling at highway speeds!
I'd be working on a longer wheelbase, I guess this is where the stubby tail and longer doors come into it.
Cheers
Bennie
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Shorter ...
Some replies I hadn't got round to :
Cheers, Bantum ...
Ha - Yes it does remind me of that ...steptoe wrote: ... Almost looks like a pressed metal Tonka car from the 70's ...
Yep, or more likely the rear diff probably just fits directly behind the gearbox, without the shaft ...Gannon wrote:... Tailshaft must be pretty short ...
Yep, very observant there ...El_Freddo wrote:... Looks like that's in the US ...
Yes it would - although if I were to do something similar, I would make it more stable / proportional as per my Sketches ...El_Freddo wrote:... That short wheel base must make for a pretty rough ride if you're travelling at highway speeds ! ...
Not sure what your trying to say there, but I might develop the concept further in SketchUp later ...El_Freddo wrote:... I guess this is where the stubby tail and longer doors come into it ...
Cheers, Bantum ...
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The factory hatches had the long door like the brumby, but the hatch at the short "stubby" rear end.Bantum wrote:Not sure what your trying to say there, but I might develop the concept further in SketchUp later ...
This car has the stock door with a bit of modifiation and the stock rear overhang - makes the proportions of the vehicle not sit right with the viewer...
Cheers
Bennie
If you look closely at 'orange stumpy' the doors have been made up from both the front and rear doors. Thus a 'cut and shut' of both doors, not a stock door at all.El_Freddo wrote:This car has the stock door with a bit of modifiation and the stock rear overhang - makes the proportions of the vehicle not sit right with the viewer...
A lot of work went into this and I agree with you that the end result is not very pleasing to the eye. 1977 to 1981 Coupe or Brumby doors would have made this appear like the latter generation hatch and perhaps less metal work would have been needed... I suppose that was not the point, however!
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Which then begs the question why didn't they put the effort into creating a longer door? The only answer I can come up with is that they didn't have a window of a suitable size/shape to fit the bill.sublime wrote:If you look closely at 'orange stumpy' the doors have been made up from both the front and rear doors. Thus a 'cut and shut' of both doors, not a stock door at all.
A lot of work went into this and I agree with you that the end result is not very pleasing to the eye. 1977 to 1981 Coupe or Brumby doors would have made this appear like the latter generation hatch and perhaps less metal work would have been needed... I suppose that was not the point, however!
Cheers
Bennie
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To Cut & Shut ...
Yep I'd agree with you there, although main problem would be getting the window for this munted door, as it won't wind down fully ... :\sublime wrote: ... If you look closely at 'orange stumpy' the doors have been made up from both the front and rear doors. Thus a 'cut and shut' of both doors, not a stock door at all ...
sublime wrote: ... A lot of work went into this and I agree with you that the end result is not very pleasing to the eye ...
Yes - I find the look a little odd too, the orange colour probably doesn't help either - makes it stand out a bit ...
Hmmm, good point - I should give that a try ... ... Anyone got some older gen BRAT / Brumby doors we could experiment with ?sublime wrote: ... 1977 to 1981 Coupe or Brumby doors would have made this appear like the latter generation hatch and perhaps less metal work would have been needed ...
Probably just using what he had ...El_Freddo wrote: ... Which then begs the question why didn't they put the effort into creating a longer door? The only answer I can come up with is that they didn't have a window of a suitable size/shape to fit the bill ...
If we can find a set of period brumby doors, ( might also need the B pillar & back as well - for the lock mechanism, etc. ) then all it would require is longer rear window - let us know if you can recommend what other suitable windows are out there, or I could get it made as basically its a flat sheet, no curves as such ...
So, to Cut & Shut the wagon, recon I should ? ...
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Cheers, Bantum ...
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