An interesting way to spend the morning

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:59 pm

take one EJ16 manifold

screw firmly to a large block of 12x4 as I dont have a vice big enough

take one reciprocating saw and an angle grinder think pleasant thoughts or of nasty school children

and cut the plenum in half

have a short break and think WTF aluminium cheese (its so porous that it was like cutting cardboard)

clean it up abit with the angle grinder

then muck around with a 350 holley adaptor

Im thinking cut the plenum off completely and make one around the bottom of the adaptor plate

how to spend the morning dreaming(mostly unsucessfully) of a solution to a carby manifold

TOONGA

Post by **Alex** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:51 pm

bahahaha...nice one

alex

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:52 pm

not sure how to take that Alex but I will push on regardless

I'm 95% of the way there, this is one of the last problems I face if I had a tig welder, a lathe, a mill, some time and lots of aluminium Im sure this problem would dissapear within a day or so

TOONGA

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:58 pm

A bit late now but wouldn't it have been easier to adapt a side draft weber/stromburg/etc?

Considering it's only a 1.6L and there's plenty of tried and true configurations for toyota's/datsun's/etc of similar capacity

Food for thought, or plan B in case this all goes horribly wrong

Jordan.

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:23 pm

well as my signature has changed so has the engine I have an ej20 that Im going to graft EJ22 heads onto.(as I said 95% of the way there)

the EJ16 is being kept for another project using a front wheel drive box (top secret for now, in other words I don't have the money to do what I want yet)

as for a sidedraft weber (anyone got an ounce or two of pure gold they care to throw my way) I have 2 more manifolds

Ive looked into that option and many others twin downdrafts, 4 motorcycle carbies(one for each cylinder)

The 350 holley was free and it works. sadly people seem to think sidedraft carburettors should cost up to six times that of a normal downdraft carby.

Laugh you all might but some of the best motors I have ever seen and heard have a carby/carbies not throttle bodies on top of them and no computer other than something to generate a spark

TOONGA

Morcs · Post by **Morcs** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:44 pm

I have often thought of a pair of blow through downdraft carbies with a boxer motor that is boost referenced while using a pair of small turbos for either side on something old skool like an ea81.

AlpineRaven · Post by **AlpineRaven** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:25 pm

Heh nice... what are your plans to do with it? - convert from EFI to carby?
Cheers
AP

Post by **TOONGA** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:06 pm

AlpineRaven wrote:Heh nice... what are your plans to do with it? - convert from EFI to carby?
Cheers
AP

yep I've got nearly everything done just the reheading of the motor and the manifold

some other fiddly bits, wedges for engine mounts and an adaptor for the dizzy

and it should all be plug and play (famous last words)

TOONGA

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:11 pm

People laughed or doubted me when I got a big hole cut for a 465 4 barrel on a 4.1 litre manifold. Went tidy on the primaries and a little rich on scondaries and was best choice and gave best economy as well as power. Finish your ideas, but I will go on record as thinking a 350 2 barrel on a 1.6litre or even 2.2litre may just bog down a little at low revs, but when you get them up should go GREAT

maxxair · Post by **maxxair** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:33 am

Looking good as mate, lovin your style, will need some advice from you soon I think, as I have This>>>

I was given the carb at by a guy at work, cleaned all the wasps out of it, gritted and painter it. the supercharger I bought for 200bux and am going to pull down and look at tonight. cheers, Rohan Maxim

ps, if you have more manifolds, I might need to get some of the injector spacer bits off you in the future (for twin superchargers. shhh.)

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:13 am

Bhahahahahahahaha.. nice work boots Julian

I can't wait to see it in the brumby and the brumby jumping the dunes at Lancelin

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:36 am

maxxair wrote:Looking good as mate, lovin your style, will need some advice from you soon I think, as I have This>>>

I was given the carb at by a guy at work, cleaned all the wasps out of it, gritted and painter it. the supercharger I bought for 200bux and am going to pull down and look at tonight. cheers, Rohan Maxim

ps, if you have more manifolds, I might need to get some of the injector spacer bits off you in the future (for twin superchargers. shhh.)

Rohan care to mail me that setup

and yes I will help as much as I can

I take it you are going to put that on an EJ motor I can't begin to imagine what it would do to an EA81 but it would be fun

and yes Paul the Japanese safety boots were the order of the day it was my hands that took the brunt of the punishment as my reciprocating saw bashed its way around the ally in places mind you I only scraped one knuckle

TOONGA

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:52 am

TOONGA wrote:and yes Paul the Japanese safety boots were the order of the day it was my hands that took the brunt of the punishment as my reciprocating saw bashed its way around the ally in places mind you I only scraped one knuckle

TOONGA

Yep.. scraping skin is part of the job. I've got a lovely blister on my left hand after trying to remove one of Dave's spark plugs yesterday

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:31 am

the lesson there is don't pull hot plugs out of and engine

I love moving a car getting under it to work and then using the hot exhaust as a grab bar to move myself under the car that one never gets old

TOONGA

justin35 · Post by **justin35** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:57 pm

Gday toonga,Great idea with the carby,:razz:an SU carby will fit if you unbolt your ej throttle body but im unsure if there big enough to run a 2.2???I was going to bolt a weber ontop of my manifold ,it only just cleared the bonnet tho with the aircleaner and i have a 2.5inch lift kit.

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:19 pm

Yes I reckon a reasonably big single SU would be the simplest approach .
Talk to Fabre Industries , or is it Midel these days , in Sydney .

Don't forget some of those larger Pommy lumps used SU's and some were suprisingly big . I think some Jags used 2" SU's .

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:26 pm

Yeah the range rovers 3.7 litre v8 used 2 su sidedraft carbies but as I said in a previous post most people want 6 times what a downdraft carby is worth new or second hand

an example

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-55mm-WEBBER- ... 3a584717b7

money my family needs (not the brumby)

if somebody wants to sell me one cheaply or even donate one I will do backflips for you

TOONGA

Bert · Post by **Bert** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:21 pm

Got a rather large specimen 2" I think laying around here somewhere ifn you're interested

Post by **TOONGA** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:28 pm

PM sent Bert

would you like to see one or two backflips?

TOONGA

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:57 am

I think it was CD Strombergs on the early RRs .

A .