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Post by TOONGA » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:39 am

if the nipple comes out of the radiator core you cannot use it for the overflow bottle, as the pipe will have constant radiator pressure water in it not overflow / return pressure.

How much is the renault 5 gt turbo radiator as opposed to he BRZ or XT6 radiator?

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Post by yobhgareb » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:56 pm

TOONGA wrote:if the nipple comes out of the radiator core you cannot use it for the overflow bottle, as the pipe will have constant radiator pressure water in it not overflow / return pressure.

How much is the renault 5 gt turbo radiator as opposed to he BRZ or XT6 radiator?

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They are both around £140 including postage.

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Post by yobhgareb » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:27 pm

I was talking about the brz and Renault 5 turbo rads there Toonga. I wouldn't get an xt6 one here, it would have to be imported.

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Post by TOONGA » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:04 am

Not a problem, I know the BRZ radiator doesn't have a filler neck on it (if I could get one with a filler neck I would put it in my vortex)

people have suggested one of these things to use with the BRZ radiator.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/radiator-hose-filler

The Renault 5 turbo radiator looks like it would be your best option with minimal modifications to get it to work. (what year is it out of ?)

incidentaly I started a thread in August of last year about the BRZ swap

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funnily enough if didn't get much airplay :)

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Post by yobhgareb » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:51 pm

The radiator is listed for 1981-1986 Renault 5 turbo. Another option I see is the saab 900 turbo 1978-1985. It has 595mm x 320mm x 40mm core and looks like it could work with an inline filler. The top water pipe is down the core a few cm, which could cause problems getting the radiator completely filled. I can by it for £49 , but the remote filler is putting me off.
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Post by El_Freddo » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:33 pm

For an engine with a service history it's pretty bloody filthy!!

Before you drop that beast into your L series make sure you put a cam belt kit with new oil seals and a new water pump in there. Do the rear main seal while you're at it!

I can't tell you how much time and effort it will save you with a new water pump - I'm learning this lesson a second time around at the moment :evil:

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Post by yobhgareb » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:53 am

El_Freddo wrote:For an engine with a service history it's pretty bloody filthy!!

Before you drop that beast into your L series make sure you put a cam belt kit with new oil seals and a new water pump in there. Do the rear main seal while you're at it!

I can't tell you how much time and effort it will save you with a new water pump - I'm learning this lesson a second time around at the moment :evil:

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Thanks for the advice. The engine does look dirty alright lol ! This old subaru dealer has a few of these old legacys and l series that he sold new, and then took back as trade ins against new subbies a few years later. He just held onto them all these years, which is great for me now :D
I bought a new copper saab 900 radiator, which is getting a cap soldered onto the passenger side end tank at the minute.

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Post by yobhgareb » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:50 am

I collected my radiator today , getting me another step closer to having all the parts I need. found an early dual range ej box , which will hopefully be in my possession within the next two weeks , then its party time !!
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Post by El_Freddo » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:31 pm

yobhgareb wrote:I collected my radiator today , getting me another step closer to having all the parts I need.

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What are the specs on that radiator - a direct drop in solution? What size are the outlets on the radiator? And finally, what material is the radiator made of - all alloy, all copper or one with plastic end tanks?

I'm curious.

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Post by yobhgareb » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:18 am

The radiator is for a 1978-1985 saab 900 turbo 2.0 . It's core measures 595mm x 320mm x 40mm. It is made of copper with copper end tanks , which allowed me to get a filler soldered onto the passenger side tank. (the saab uses a remote filler tank) As for the outlets, they are the same as ea82 radiator.
It will fit with minor fettling, new holes will be drilled for the bottom spigots to sit into, and I can get one of the top subbie bolts to line with a saab fixing point. I purchased an adapter for the temp sensor on ebay, which will house the smaller subaru sensor into the larger hole for the saab one.
I chose this radiator after a lot of searching , and at £140 including fitting the filler and cap, I was happy enough.
The old L is still running me to work at the moment, but once I start, I will post some pics of the saab radiator in place. Thanks.

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Post by RSR 555 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:34 pm

yobhgareb wrote:I have a few questions I need some help with. First off, would I be able to use the front casing of the fwd ej tranny on my ea82 dual range box? and also , is there any issues to watch for in this carb for carb swap?
You can swap the front casings over as long as you use the EJ Dual Range front halves, other wise the easier and cheaper option is to use an adaptor plate.

Oh issues with engine swap.. where do I start.. better off sell me that engine :p

But seriously I think it's easier to power-up your EA82 with a weber unless you are handing with the tools and happy to try stuff out. The EJ is one of the best conversions but not sure if the Carby EJ is much more over the EA82 carby motor.
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Post by yobhgareb » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:15 am

RSR 555 wrote:You can swap the front casings over as long as you use the EJ Dual Range front halves, other wise the easier and cheaper option is to use an adaptor plate.

Oh issues with engine swap.. where do I start.. better off sell me that engine :p

But seriously I think it's easier to power-up your EA82 with a weber unless you are handing with the tools and happy to try stuff out. The EJ is one of the best conversions but not sure if the Carby EJ is much more over the EA82 carby motor.
I have my head around it now, its very simple when the ej is there beside the l series for comparison. The 18 carbed ej is listed at 103 bhp, its not much of a power increase, but a guy has to start somewhere:-). Im just hoping to gain experience with this swap.

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Post by RSR 555 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:48 am

Cool. Can't wait to see it all up and running. Remember we really love pics :)

While I'm thinking of it, is there many of these engines available in Ireland? I'd be interested in buying some of the engine parts.
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Post by yobhgareb » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:54 am

RSR 555 wrote:Cool. Can't wait to see it all up and running. Remember we really love pics :)

While I'm thinking of it, is there many of these engines available in Ireland? I'd be interested in buying some of the engine parts.
Cant wait myself. I'm going to lift a dual range ej trans this weekend , so thats all the main parts ready.
you dont see many of these engines here. The guy I got this one of has another, but he is quite a journey away. If I ever stumble on one I will post it up here.

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Post by yobhgareb » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:48 am

I removed the ea82 engine and gearbox today.
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Here is the old ea82 unit in the middle, with the ej dual range in front, and the carbed ej18 in the back ground.

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I noticed my ea82 dual range has 25 spline stubs , the same as the ej dual range box I got for
the casing. The fwd ej box that came attached to my carb engine has 23 spline stubs.
The distributer and coil are on the opposite side on the ej engine, so I have to extend the wiring for the loom to reach to the drivers side of the car. The saab radiator has the temp sensor on the other side, so the wiring has to be lengthened again.
Im going to spend the next few evenings giving the engine bay a good clean and touch up some surface rust.
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Post by RSR 555 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:22 pm

Was the EA82 dual range box from an EFI model?

Also.. very hard to see your pictures.. they are very small (or is it just me?)
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Post by yobhgareb » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:14 am

The dual range was the original from my 1986 carb l series. It will be handy for axles being a 25 spline. I noticed the axle shafts are thicker than 23 spline items ive seen pics of. I have a new genuine front axle I bought for a non turbo xt. it has the same inner and outer spline count, but a thinner shaft.
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We must have got turbo xt axles in the front of the 4wd l series over here:D
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Post by yobhgareb » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:16 am

Also.. very hard to see your pictures.. they are very small (or is it just me?)[/QUOTE]

sorry, I was cropping the pics cos I had trouble uploading full size

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Post by RSR 555 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:04 am

From what I've found in Aus over the years it that...

1 band on the shaft = 2WD
2 band on the shaft = PT4WD
3 band on the shaft = EFI (incl turbo) and FT4WD

But this could be different around the world.


BTW.. this last picture looks a good size :)
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Post by El_Freddo » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:25 pm

^^ Really? Never knew this - never looked at those bands before to be honest!

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