The Brumbyrunner Project

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:15 pm

What are you raving about? You can't come. You've got a new day job. Save your money to buy more bourban at Finke.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:06 am

I had a call from the most successful Aussie Dakar auto competitor ever and he wants us to do the Condo 750. It's on over Easter which coincides with the AORC first round at Hyden in WA.

I'm going to have to employ more staff because the way I'm going I won't be home much!

Outback bloke · Post by **Outback bloke** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:40 am

It's a log way from home for you. Not so far from here.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:46 pm

brumbyrunner wrote:What are you raving about? You can't come. You've got a new day job. Save your money to buy more bourban at Finke.

Why not

It's all your fault I got interested in this stuff anyway

Hyden is too far for such a short time. Condo on the other hand is just days drive for us

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:57 pm

White_Lightning_Rex wrote:Why not It's all your fault I got interested in this stuff anyway

Hyden is too far for such a short time. Condo on the other hand is just days drive for us

Oh righto then, you can come too. Then you can tow the car to Condo and the rest of us will fly down.

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:21 pm

where's Condo? Sounds interesting..

Outback bloke · Post by **Outback bloke** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:08 pm

http://www.visitnsw.com/town/Condobolin.aspx

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:30 pm

brumbyrunner wrote:Oh righto then, you can come too. Then you can tow the car to Condo and the rest of us will fly down.

Damn fine idea. You know if I had the time I would.

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:32 pm

I'm in. I will be flying to wollongong and driving my mates lib out from there though

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:18 pm

Outback bloke wrote:How did you get on with the cv joints today? Length/spline on the Liberty ones going to work with the circlips?

I have made some discoveries and learnt a lot. I was kinda hopeing that I wouldn't have to immerse myself in the entire Subaru DOJ range to get the shafts I need. There are times when, if you could just ask an expert, it would save a whole lot of trouble. So notch DOJs up beside tyres sizes, rim offsets, gearbox ratios, LSDs, differences between early STi versions....

There could probably be a tech section devoted to the whole DOJ interchangeability issue and maybe there is but I cant find it

Some interesting findings that most of you no doubt already know.

FACT#1 : All the driveshafts I have seen have the same spline both ends.
FACT#2 : There are 4 driveshaft spline counts; 22, 23, 25 & 30.
FACT#3 : There are 2 output shaft/stub-axle spline counts; 23 & 25.
FACT#4 : The two 23 splines and the two 25 splines are identical (which is completely irrevelant and useless info).
FACT#5 : There is no acurate way of determining the size of a DOJ or shaft without dissasembly.
FACT#6 : Driveshafts designed for one DOJ and one CV cannot take two DOJs without doing something seriously bodgee to it.
FACT#7 : I have built myself a rear-end that will not be able to use Subaru parts.

Next step is to determine the ideal size I need the rear driveshaft to be. It's going to be about 470mm long and either 23 or 25 spline.
Where would I find a file listing all the lengths and splines of every driveshaft ever made?
Does anyone have a contact in the driveshaft world that would be able to answer that question?

ian059 · Post by **ian059** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:49 pm

Try these guys
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/onlineSol ... s&z=304034

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:15 pm

Driveline services are another one.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:05 pm

Yeah thanks Wlbur but I think I've got buckleys.
I'll make some calls on Monday but if that proves fruitless then I'll just get some shafts made. In the great scheme of things, it's no big deal.
The worst part is, if I knew I was going to make custom shafts I would have increased the track even more. Front and rear. Not to worry, it can stay like ths for now.

I may as well use the big 95AC DOJs and get the 25 splines cut to suit. 30 spline is all the rage now but 25 is still bigger.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:38 am

Try these guys, he has a book with measurements and sizes (Splines, total length and in some cases diameter). The bloke you need to speak to is George. What he doesn't know about CV's isn't worth knowing.

Townsville CV Shafts
Address: 14 Somer St, HYDE PARK 4812
Telephone: (07) 4771 3549

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:47 am

Thanks ian059 & Matt. Spoke to them today.

Does anyone own a Turbo Leonie with the 3 speed auto? I believe the front inner DOJ has the big 25 spline shaft but the small 23 spline cup to suit the auto gearbox. I just need a VIN to help track down the genuine part no.

stamp_licker · Post by **stamp_licker** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:47 pm

Vin JF2AC7CROBF611259

I believe the front inner DOJ has the big 25 spline shaft but the small 23 spline cup to suit the auto gearbox.

This is correct.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:20 pm

Thanks postie. Did you get that Frog?

Can I get a genuine manual RX Turbo VIN as well? I want to run the front inner DOJ on the front. The Turbo Leonie joints are for the rear.

FROG · Post by **FROG** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:52 am

yep on it now

front drive shaft auto is 23221 GA 373

front drive shaft manual is 23221 GA 573

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:52 am

brumbyrunner wrote:Thanks postie. Did you get that Frog?

Can I get a genuine manual RX Turbo VIN as well? I want to run the front inner DOJ on the front. The Turbo Leonie joints are for the rear.

Never mind the RX Turbo VIN. Frog is on top of things as usual.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:13 pm

brumbyrunner wrote:Never mind the RX Turbo VIN. Frog is on top of things as usual.

I have my old one written down at home if you ever need it.