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Post by niterida » Fri May 18, 2012 10:06 am

yeah - that was a dig at Paul - he wants my H6 for his outback - was trying to make him offer me more money if he thinks I want to keep it for myself ;-)

I don't really want a H6 - they are too long for the Brumby engine bay too. I know you can squeeze them in but I am just going to stick with an EJ motor.
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Post by subybrumby » Fri May 18, 2012 11:06 pm

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Post by 1111giles » Sat May 19, 2012 8:30 am

niterida wrote:well the dreams are over - the rotary won't fit :-(
now on the lookout for a decent turbo subie motor or maybe a good H6 ??
??? Eh? Rotary wont fit ?? Its already been done before Ken - so it must fit in there.
Take a Time out and maybe get a few opinions as to how to proceed.
Cripes some folks have dropped in H6's so how does a tiny mazda fizzer not fit ?
Please show and tell :!:


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Post by niterida » Sat May 19, 2012 10:24 am

1111giles wrote:??? Eh? Rotary wont fit ?? Its already been done before Ken - so it must fit in there.
Take a Time out and maybe get a few opinions as to how to proceed.
Cripes some folks have dropped in H6's so how does a tiny mazda fizzer not fit ?
Please show and tell :!:


I so want this to complete !
AFAIK it has been done to only one other MY car - not sure how he did it as I (nor anyone else) have seen photos of it.

But I can tell you an EJ motor is approx 400mm long, an EZ H6 is only about420mm and the rotary is about 530 !!

It will physically fit but then it doesn't leave room for a decent radiator or FMIC and I am not prepared to mount the radiator in the rear or modify the radiator support panel.
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Post by El_Freddo » Sat May 19, 2012 11:34 am

niterida wrote:well the dreams are over - the rotary won't fit :-(
now on the lookout for a decent turbo subie motor or maybe a good H6 ??
One of the old forum members here shoved a 13B into an MY coupe. It was blue, but I'm guessing the changes you've made to the floor pan could be the difference.

Bummer.

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Post by niterida » Sat May 19, 2012 12:11 pm

El_Freddo wrote:One of the old forum members here shoved a 13B into an MY coupe. It was blue, but I'm guessing the changes you've made to the floor pan could be the difference.

Bummer.

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Yeah that was kwijmbo - been in touch with him last year but he hasn't responded to any PM's lately.

Floor changes shouldn't make any difference as the gearbox should still be in the same location to get the wheels in the centre of the wheel arches.

If I get a chance next week I will bolt everything up to the chassis to make sure my measurements are correct.

But lets face it rotary or STi its still gonna be quick :cool:
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Post by B00sting » Sat May 19, 2012 12:32 pm

That sucks mate.
Hopefully there is a solution.
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Post by niterida » Sat May 19, 2012 12:54 pm

B00sting wrote:That sucks mate.
Hopefully there is a solution.
I believe there may be an easy solution - get a new pair of eyes !!

I was in the shed for another reason this morning and I thought I would just have another closer look. It turns out that even though I measured the length of the rotary over and over again I still got it wrong. Its only 430mm, not 530mm, so its virtually the same length as an EJ.

Still going to be a tight fit though.
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Post by subybrumby » Sat May 19, 2012 2:20 pm

Other remedy is to lose the gear box, move the rotor and its gearbox back and just go rear wheel drive...????
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Post by niterida » Sat May 19, 2012 2:41 pm

subybrumby wrote:Other remedy is to lose the gear box, move the rotor and its gearbox back and just go rear wheel drive...????
Never an option - it wouldn't be a Subaru if I did that ;)

If I wanted RWD I'd put the rotor in a Mazda.
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Post by 2coupedup » Sat May 19, 2012 3:34 pm

niterida wrote:Never an option - it wouldn't be a Subaru if I did that ;)

If I wanted RWD I'd put the rotor in a Mazda.
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Post by d_generate » Sat May 19, 2012 10:15 pm

SR20 Nissan motor? much stronger than a Subi and cheap bolt on power too.
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Post by thunder039 » Sun May 20, 2012 10:22 am

d_generate wrote:SR20 Nissan motor? much stronger than a Subi and cheap bolt on power too.
great motor my mate just out one in his older s12 silvia for dirfts. great engine for a N/A and doesnt require much work to strap on a turbo
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Post by thunder039 » Sun May 20, 2012 10:32 am

i think its the toyota FG20 which is out of the supra, another good alternitive these things go like the clappers! but there nissan sylvia and skyline engines are easy to come by and good power
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Post by Smash1911 » Sun May 20, 2012 12:36 pm

The supra had either a 1JZ or 2JZ inline 6 engine, not sure how well one would fit in a brumby without moving the firewall back!!

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Post by niterida » Sun May 20, 2012 1:46 pm

why are you guys even talking this crap in my thread ? If I can't get the rotor to fit its going to be an STi motor - end of story !!
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Post by RSR 555 » Sun May 20, 2012 4:53 pm

niterida wrote:Never an option - it wouldn't be a Subaru if I did that ;)
And pulling a wankel engine in it will???
niterida wrote:why are you guys even talking this crap in my thread ? If I can't get the rotor to fit its going to be an STi motor - end of story !!
Oh snap... Guessing you're not a Nissan fan :o
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Post by niterida » Sun May 20, 2012 4:59 pm

RSR 555 wrote:And pulling a wankel engine in it will???
I was referring to making it RWD - but yes I did think that comment was a bit silly when I wrote it :)
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Post by seagull » Sun May 20, 2012 9:36 pm

I have a 2.5sti motor here if you need it, its needs assembly

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Post by niterida » Sun May 20, 2012 9:46 pm

Thanks Neil but I would be looking at buying a front cut to get the wiring harness etc etc. Plus I may just be able to squeeze the rotor in after all. WIll wait to see once I get the front end all welded back in which will be this week hopefully.
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