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Lifted Liberty Sedan

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:39 pm
by bensmith87
I finally finished putting all the Outback bits in my 1997 Liberty RX.
Most of the bits were scavenged from wreckers; a few are improvised.
These images could be helpful to anyone else wanting to do the same thing.

Rear
Diff carrier spacer
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Trailing arm spacer
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Some other rear spacer
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Front
The engine crossmember spacer
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New rear gearbox crossmember
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Front gearbox crossmember spacers
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Control arm bush
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Steering knuckle
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It also has struts from the Outback.
The only issue I had was the steering knuckle; it seems too long. I ended up using a chainsaw file to flatten out the spline on the steering wheel column so i could slide the pinch thing up further...

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:25 pm
by RSR 555
Sounds good.. do you have some pics of before and after? showing the differences in heights

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:58 am
by bensmith87
I don't have a before, but here are some afters, one with the stock tyres and one with general grabbers, sorry they're not great.

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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:07 am
by NachaLuva
bensmith87 wrote: Trailing arm spacer
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If you plan on going offroad or on rough roads you really should tie these blocks together by welding some RHS between them. As the rear wheel hits ruts or potholes, it puts a huge amount of force through the trailing arm. This makes these blocks rock back & forth slightly. Over time it weakens the chassis rail. There have been a few members with significant cracks there & 1 even had the captive nuts ripped right out! :shock:
Control arm bush
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So is the top one from a Liberty?

I recognise the bottom one from a Forester or Outback.
Steering knuckle
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The only issue I had was the steering knuckle; it seems too long. I ended up using a chainsaw file to flatten out the spline on the steering wheel column so i could slide the pinch thing up further...
Right one Liberty & left Outback?

I have a question for you...if you got the steering knuckle from a wrecker, how did you remove it? Did you have to drop the front crossmember/steering rack?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:27 pm
by El_Freddo
NachaLuva wrote:.if you got the steering knuckle from a wrecker, how did you remove it? Did you have to drop the front crossmember/steering rack?
Two ways of doing this: Sometimes there's enough room to slide the steering knuckle off once the retaining bolts are removed. IF this doesn't work you can drop the steering column down which usually gives enough room to get the steering knuckle out.

IF that doesn't work the last resort is to pull the steering column into the cabin, it should only be the two or three bolts to drop it down in the first place...

Ben, I'm with Nachaluva - weld those blocks together! And if you don't have "crush tubing" welded in I'd be doing that ASAP as a start. Crush tube is simply a piece of tube for the bolt to tension rather than tensioning the square tubing that has some flex in it. Clear as mud?

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:33 am
by bensmith87
Thanks for the tips, I'll weld the trailing arm spacers together and add the crush tubes.

Yeah, the top control arm bush is the stock liberty one.

I actually got the steering knuckle from a friend, but to remove the old one and install the new one, I actually ended up dropping the entire engine.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:08 am
by NachaLuva
bensmith87 wrote:Thanks for the tips, I'll weld the trailing arm spacers together and add the crush tubes.
Look here:
showthread.php?p=227359#post227359
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I actually got the steering knuckle from a friend, but to remove the old one and install the new one, I actually ended up dropping the entire engine.
So the longer one is from an Outback?

I might try El Freddos suggestion with the steering column first

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:23 pm
by RSR 555
Ben's rear blocks look like they have the crush tube in them

The longer steering knuckle is the Outback one and these can be removed from the original car by removing both bolts at either end, then tap the knuckle up along the steering column spline which allows the knuckle to come off the steering rack spline, then just slid the knuckle off the column spline.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:42 pm
by NachaLuva
Awesome thanks Paul. I'll try that next time

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:15 pm
by vincentvega
Tieing the blocks together is a good idea but not essential. I have solid alloy blocks and mines been through hell and back with no issues. I reckon my car has been lifted longer than most too

the front control arm mounts are a known issue in the gen3.. probably ok with just the foz/outback brackets though

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:51 pm
by classic jay
i love the fact that you have lifted you liberty! but an rx? this makes me wanna cry! a standard liberty is a different story tho, but the rx look to nice to destroy

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:04 pm
by NachaLuva
bensmith87 wrote: Steering knuckle
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OK I just got a steering linkage from an Outback & it was actually shorter than a Forester linkage! (thanks for the tips El Freddo & Paul, with some knowledge it wasn't too hard to remove)

Ben, can you find out what model Outback this is from? It would be a great help

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:21 pm
by RSR 555
NachaLuva wrote:Ben, can you find out what model Outback this is from? It would be a great help
I can help you.. it's from a 96 to 99 Outback (BG body shape)

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:56 pm
by NachaLuva
Awesome thanks Paul. BTW, your trick of sliding the linkage up the steering column to free the bottom end worked a treat! ;)

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:52 pm
by RSR 555
No probs :) Glad you get it sorted. I have plenty of tricks up my sleeve :p

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:48 am
by bensmith87
So the longer one is from an Outback?
I'm quite sure it's from an Outback.
Ben's rear blocks look like they have the crush tube in them
No crush tubes yet, but they are made of 4mm RHS, so quite strong.
i love the fact that you have lifted you liberty! but an rx? this makes me wanna cry! a standard liberty is a different story tho, but the rx look to nice to destroy
I think she looks heaps better now, and still corners a million times better than the VN on the twisty bitchumen.