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libs off road
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:04 am
by Subafury
i will be gettin a liberty very soon and was wondering how these AWD's go in the sand. i assume they dont have a low range?
also i know gound clearance could be a poblem - but thats what lift kits are for.
i hope i can find a manual AWD. (havent seen like any fs in the past couple weeks.)
any comments would be great
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:41 am
by AndrewT
They go very well offroad especially in the sand. I'm not talking from direct personal experience (although I will be soon!) but I've seen alot of Aspro's car flogging around offroad. Very very capable and this is without even adding a rear LSD yet.
Also....ALOT of the AWD Manual Libs actually do come with low range, although I think this might only be the wagons? Either way the dual range gearboxes are not impossible to come by. Aspro is running one of these (3.9 ratio dual range AWD from a Lib).
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:38 pm
by vincentvega
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:52 pm
by PeeJay
Low range is only a 1:1.1 reduction. When I first got my car I thought it didn't work because I couldn't notice any change!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:55 pm
by AndrewT
Yeah but I rekon the massive torque increase from EA to EJ makes up for it!!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:59 pm
by vincentvega
its actually closer to 1.2:1
if you want decent low range fit an L series low range gearset or buy an auto
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:17 pm
by Ben
It's 1:1.196 Dane
The auto's are brilliant on sand - you have to drive one to believe it!
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:07 am
by Suby Wan Kenobi
Having owned both the auto and manual in turbo and non turbo derivatives i can say with either transmission you wont be sorry, the auto is great and with a centre lock mod are pretty much fool proof. Many of us here have manual versions in both turbo and non turbo and highly recomend them.
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:10 am
by Subafury
cheers for the info fellas.
i still havent come across any manuals in the paper or online - within my 4k price range anyway. a few autos - my dad checked out one that was pretty good apart from $ but it also had adjustable suspension. the seller reckons it can go up like a couple inches. wouldnt even need a lift kit then(note: need). does this come with many?
might have to seriously look at some more autos then even though id prefer a man for a daily driver.
RE: Lib on sand
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:15 am
by SUBYDAZZ
It takes some practice and common sense, but yeah they go great on sand, lift & bigger tyres would be an advantage for the softer stuff.
See pics below from Stockton Beach, NSW.
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:30 pm
by vincentvega
your mission: to take your stocko liberty places nobody has ever taken them before...
love your work daz.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:08 pm
by AndrewT
That lib in the video seems to be having heaps of trouble making it through that bit of sand. Redlining the tits off it...
I'm sure thats just for fun tho
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:38 am
by vincentvega
the videos of that hill climb dont come anywhere near showing how steep or rutted it was. and very soft!
took me 3 goes to get up, but i always try the slow option first. This was a flat to the floor only hill
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:14 pm
by AndrewT
hehe yeah...
My technique is to watch a couple of other people go up then follow slightly faster
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:40 am
by Bumpty
How many lifted libs are there on here?
gen1?
gen2?
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:42 pm
by vincentvega
shitloads.
take a look at the front page of
http://www.subaclub.com
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:56 pm
by stamp_licker
Bumpty wrote:How many lifted libs are there on here?
gen1?
gen2?
There's even a few gen 3 and 4
lifted on here.
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:58 pm
by Subafury
wow. way to dig up an old thread. that was when i was between cars and ended up buying my current L haha
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:16 pm
by yarney
This is the difference between standard low range and l_series low range the wagon is std and ran out of puff on the second last clip worth doing if you go off road a lot.
Jan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6uujuVpTM
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:13 pm
by Bumpty
But I want to look at them closely (read a my car section), get ideas etc for mine. Does the suba club have a my car section I can view?