my brumby project.

[isnowi]

Hi all,

Pics of my Brumby have had it a few weeks now, and have ripped out the slaughtered ea82, about 8 litres of water in the sump, and everywhere else to boot, sourced an ej20 sohc out of an hx20 impreza, going to run it on stock dizzy and carb from early legacy ej18 to begin with and look at idf's or similar later on down the track.



Rustwise it's not too bad, a bit in the a pillars, and a hole in the tray as well as along the tray to cab join.



Scored a set of leather GT legacy seats, and a nardi wrx steering wheel.


Seats will fit with a bit of jiggery pokery, not sure about the steering wheel, haven't tried it yet.

Cheers, Dan

[isnowi]

Righto bit of progress,

Seats in and working.

Steering wheel in.

Flywheel machined and adaptor plate mounted

In the hole

Plenty of room

Not such a good discovery :-\

Got some of these to play with.


So it's slowly coming together, still trying to track down a dizzy from an early ej18 carbie motor, or else i'll modify the ea82 one i have to fit.

[brumbyrunner]

Looks like it's coming together nicely. Any reason you don't want EFI? The early stuff is pretty basic and looms can be bought cut down ready to plug and play.

Is that an import, custom built or did you guys get EA82/5-speed/full dash Brumbys from the dealer?

[isnowi]

Mainly avoiding EFI because i can, when i started down the path with this one i had access to a compelte ej18 carbed car, unforunately it was crushed before i got the bits i needed off.

It was sold new from the dealer here, the ea82 was put in at a later date though, as far as i am aware everything else is stock. Only a 4 speed too.

[ToyRX]

Hey - looking good, Brumby's are tons of fun.

Where are you in NZ? I may be able to help source parts for you if you are struggling.

Cheers - Shaun

[isnowi]

Hey - looking good, Brumby's are tons of fun.

Where are you in NZ? I may be able to help source parts for you if you are struggling.

Cheers - Shaun

I'm in wellignton, when i started the project i was tripping over carbed legacies, i haven't seen a single one since, i've drawn up plans to modify an ea82 dizzy to suit, but i know as soon as i start it, a legacy will show up.

I will keep in mind your offer for parts sourcing, it's all about being in the right place at the tight time evidently.

Cheers, Dan

[RSR 555]

Nice Brumby Dan.. Love the colour

As for your dizzy issue have you got any Subaru Fiori over there? I can only find point's type over here but have been told they were available in electronic? I'm currently making up a small plate to be able fit this dizzy straight on the EJ without any modification.

[isnowi]

Nice Brumby Dan.. Love the colour

As for your dizzy issue have you got any Subaru Fiori over there? I can only find point's type over here but have been told they were available in electronic? I'm currently making up a small plate to be able fit this dizzy straight on the EJ without any modification.

We only got 3 cylinder ones i think, not too many around either unfortunately.

[TOONGA]

Dan showthread.php?t=15851 for the trials and tribulations of Frank

if you cant find a fiori dizzy look for a rex (fiori's cousin) dizzy or a sambar (strange truck thing) if you cant find them look for a late model ford lazer or meteor or any ford with a cam mount dizzy (front) as they will fit but you will need to make an adaptor plate mark3 escorts fit but you will need an early 2 wire one to make things less complicated

yes we have had fun doing it and there is more fun to be had

TOONGA

[isnowi]

Dan showthread.php?t=15851 for the trials and tribulations of Frank

if you cant find a fiori dizzy look for a rex (fiori's cousin) dizzy or a sambar (strange truck thing) if you cant find them look for a late model ford lazer or meteor or any ford with a cam mount dizzy (front) as they will fit but you will need to make an adaptor plate mark3 escorts fit but you will need an early 2 wire one to make things less complicated

yes we have had fun doing it and there is more fun to be had

TOONGA

Thanks mate, i'm hoping to learn from some of your trials and tribulations, given the gift of hindsight i would of done a few things differently myself. As for the dizxy options, the easiest will be the ej18 dizzy, followed closely by the ford/mazda dizzy, the best of which seems to be off of the dohc motor as it has the 'ears' in approximately the right place to use both of the original bolts, the sohc one has a different bolt pattern. The baby subarus do not show up very often for parts here, so i think rex/fiori is a long shot. Failing that a couple of hours on the lathe will have the ea82 dizzy fitting..

[guyph_01]

hey mate, your car looks great, this will turn out to be a great car when its done.
Just wandering, how did you get the steering wheel on? i tried to get a rs one in but the splines are different. thx

[isnowi]

I made a new hub using the spline insert form the brumby wheel, and a bit of plate, the Nardi wheel is really easy to adapt, i think the momo ones (that don't have seperate hub kits) are a bit trickier.

[RSR 555]

If you can wait a week.. I can supply you a Fiori dizzy with an adaptor plate that will not require any modifications to fit.. Only issue that some people have concerns are that the Fiori is a points type of dizzy. If you prefer the Electronic dizzys instead. I have some (2 wire - straight forward connection) Mark3 dizzys coming from the UK. We haven't fitted the MK3 dizzys to the EJ motors yet so I'd prefer to get done before sending you anything.

[isnowi]

If you can wait a week.. I can supply you a Fiori dizzy with an adaptor plate that will not require any modifications to fit.. Only issue that some people have concerns are that the Fiori is a points type of dizzy. If you prefer the Electronic dizzys instead. I have some (2 wire - straight forward connection) Mark3 dizzys coming from the UK. We haven't fitted the MK3 dizzys to the EJ motors yet so I'd prefer to get done before sending you anything.

Whatever dizzy i use will need modification, as the ej20 does not have a distributor drive slot, there are a couple of holes that i could pick up on in the end of the camshaft, but i am a little concerned the holes have something to do with lubrication. As for points vs electronic, i'm sure it would be easy enough to retrofit an electronic setup to the fiori if need be. I'm going to hunt around the wrecker again this weekend, there are plenty of options, i just need to make a decision as to what i will use.

Cheers for the offer, i will let you know if i get totally stuck.

Cheers, Dan

[RSR 555]

Whatever dizzy i use will need modification, as the ej20 does not have a distributor drive slot, there are a couple of holes that i could pick up on in the end of the camshaft, but i am a little concerned the holes have something to do with lubrication. As for points vs electronic, i'm sure it would be easy enough to retrofit an electronic setup to the fiori if need be. I'm going to hunt around the wrecker again this weekend, there are plenty of options, i just need to make a decision as to what i will use.

Cheers for the offer, i will let you know if i get totally stuck.

Cheers, Dan

Oh yeah.. sorry Dan I forgot yours had no slot. My personnal opinion would be to get hold of some secondhand EJ22 camshafts then the dizzy conversion would be a lot easier. I might even have some over here if you can't find some cheap ones over there

[isnowi]

I considered that, but i would probably swap the entire heads, as far as i can tell the camshafts run in the heads with no bearings, i would be a little nervous about putting a worn cam from another motor into the motor i already have. The ej20 i have has the same stock power and torque as the ej22, so I'm guessing if i changed cams or heads that the power would suffer quite considerably.
Always open to new ideas though.

Ej22 is not too hard to find, we got plenty of late ej22's in brighton 220's.

If i'm honest and i could go back and do it again knowing what i now know i would go for an ej22 rather than the ej20 i ended up with.

Cheers, Dan

[RSR 555]

I wouldn't worry too much about using secondhand camshafts.. as long as they are within specs I'd use them

Just a thought but would you be able to sell the EJ20 and buy a EJ22?

I think the HP of both early EJ22 and late model EJ20 are about the same but the torque outputs for the EJ22 are much higher (can't remember the figures atm)

[isnowi]

As per 1993 brighton 220 legacy

Displacement, cc 2212
Engine model EJ22
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 135 ps (99.29 kw) / 5500 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 19.0 kg*m (186.33 N*m) / 4500 rpm

Compression ratio 9.5
Bore, mm 96.9
Stroke, mm 75

This is what i've got at the moment, no major difference really, might be an option to look at finding an ej22.

Displacement, cc 1994
Engine model EJ20
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 135 ps (99.29 kw) / 5600 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 18.5 kg*m (181.42 N*m) / 4000 rpm

Compression ratio 9.7
Bore, mm 92
Stroke, mm 75

[RSR 555]

What year is your EJ20.. thinking that if it's late then maybe an EJ22 would be cheaper so you might not be out of pocket? Just a thought

[isnowi]

EJ20 is a 96 or 97, EJ22 is the same price from whence this motor came, not bank busting, but it would take some explaining to the boss.

I might consider it some more, it only really makes the dizzy easier, won't have too much more effect on things other than that.