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Could we start another thread for orders to try and get the 40 wheels to make a order.I'll be honest i wouldn't mind something different to a sunny and in black.Would also be chasing 6 off.Outback bloke wrote:How soon do you want to do it? We can still get the brand new 15 inch wheels. Other styles to the sunny look to. Only prob is you have to find other people that want them to make the order up to 40 wheels.
If the vote was set up for only people that have done it before then there would only be 4 or 5 voters. And it's pretty hard for someone who has done it to vote against a mod they chose themselves.AndrewT wrote:just wondering....how many of the people who voted for 14" have any experience with 6stud L series with larger than 14" wheels?
I know Keffa has...and he voted for doing it
I did some reading yesterday regarding this, and a couple of thread on this forum highlighted the danger of it more than anything. The drilling of the hubs isn't actually a problem in itself but the drilling into thinner material than where the original studs come from is. So to is welding the studs onto a hub because the hole is a bit big. Now if the hub was uniform thickness at every bolt hole I wouldn't have a problem with it but it is obvious from a few things I have read that they aren't and the new studs are put in material that is significantly thinner that where the old ones come from.AndrewT wrote:I can't see how it's a dodgy mod at all.
im sorry guys I did not word the thread or poll correctly, so its inaccurate. It is as andrewt says here. the real question Im asking is "should I put tyres larger than 27 inch on my car and what are the pros/cons". like i said Im not really worried about legalities of a 6 stud conversion as i figure my car is already illegal as it is with a 3" lift kit, welded diff, bulk supporting welds underneath the car, HIDs, loud exhaust, unregistered engine etc.AndrewT wrote:haha, if a person bases their mods on whether or not people are gonna tease them then they are pretty vain.
I think this pole needs more definition...I don't think whether the car has 6 studs or 4 really makes much difference to anything.
I can't see how it's a dodgy mod at all. Sure, putting larger wheels on hubs that are designed for 13" wheels is going to push some boundaries but you'd be in the exact same boat in that respect if you went for the expensive 15" rims that suit the original 4 studs. 6 studs holding the wheel to the hub has got to be better than 4 studs, but this doesn't really mean much, I haven't heard of anybody with 4 studs having a problem with wheels falling off etc.
It's simply a modification allowing a cheap way to get larger wheels as opposed to the 15" 4stud ones.
The real question should be something like "should I put tyres larger than 27 inch on my L series" as this is the factor which really affects things;
- makes a difference to offroading ability
- makes a difference to ratios
- affects apparent power (car feels slower etc)
- requires mutilation of the car a fair bit (guard mods etc)
I have 35" BFG M/Ts on my current car (not a subie, the make we aren't aloud to mentionSubafury wrote:but 33" muddies are ok for an MY buggy
)I'll give you my car as an example to explain it. Before I went to 35" BFG M/Ts my car ran 30" Hankooks. Say for example with he 30" Hankooks the tyre rotated 500 times for each km (this is an exaggerated number) and the current 35" BFGs rotate 450 times each km. That is a 10% difference, 10% of 500=50. So my effective rear end gearing has gone from 4.1 to approximately 3.7 (10% of 4.1 is 0.41 so 4.1-0.41=3.69) and my engine revs also dropped from 2600 rpm at 100 km/h to 2340 rpm at 100 km/h. So my acceleration is slower and my crawling is more labored. Now if I didn't have a 5.7 litre that has torque on tap it would probably be an issue, but I do so it isn't.Phizinza wrote:I still can't grasp this thing where changing your wheel size changes how a car drives or gearing... Its all in the tyres you use on them. Unless you don't use tyres?
