Engine Upgrade to Brumby - Vic Roads Response
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:53 pm
I made an enquiry to Vic Roads about putting an EJ20, or EJ22 into a Brumby. I was referring to VSI 8, which is the guidance onwhat you can do in terms of modifications. I was trying to get away with not getting a VASS Engineer involved. (For non-victorians, a VASS Engineer is the auto eng who needs to sign of on significant mods to cars under victorian law. they are not cheap)
VSI says if the motor is kind of the same manufacturer, is "similar" in power, and meets the emissions of the original engine, you dont have to get a VASS certificate. I queried it for an EJ20, and there response was as follows:
Thankyou for your email
In reference to your enquiry, please find below options for engine replacement
1. Replacement engine is identical to the original engine, or is an option allowed by the manufacturer for the same model vehicle
The optional engine must be offered in Australia by the vehicle manufacturer as as option for that vehicle (or certified variants). The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying the engine is optional for the vehicle model, and that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that optional engine, have been completed.
A Change of Description form must be completed providing new engine details. An inspection to confirm engine details is also required. An original receipt for the pur chase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
2. Replacement engine is not of a type offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle or where alterations, or changes to the vehicle's frame or structure are made, and/or specially fabricated supports or structures are used
A VASS Approval Certificate from a VicRoads VASS Signatory is required. An original receipt for the purchase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
A Change of Description form must be completed providing new engine details and an inspection to confirm engine details is required.
3. Replacement engine is not of a type and/or make offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle, but is equivalent in general configuration, power, mass, and emissions standard to that of the original or an optional engine for the vehicle model and can be installed without any structual alterations.
The cha nge of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that engine, have been completed.
A Change of Description form must be completed providing new engine details. An inspection to confirm engine details is also required. An original receipt for the purchase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
In my mind, this means as long as my mechanic signs something saying the EJ20 install was done in accordance with whatever the vehicle it came out of, Im sweet.
VSI says if the motor is kind of the same manufacturer, is "similar" in power, and meets the emissions of the original engine, you dont have to get a VASS certificate. I queried it for an EJ20, and there response was as follows:
Thankyou for your email
In reference to your enquiry, please find below options for engine replacement
1. Replacement engine is identical to the original engine, or is an option allowed by the manufacturer for the same model vehicle
The optional engine must be offered in Australia by the vehicle manufacturer as as option for that vehicle (or certified variants). The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying the engine is optional for the vehicle model, and that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that optional engine, have been completed.
A Change of Description form must be completed providing new engine details. An inspection to confirm engine details is also required. An original receipt for the pur chase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
2. Replacement engine is not of a type offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle or where alterations, or changes to the vehicle's frame or structure are made, and/or specially fabricated supports or structures are used
A VASS Approval Certificate from a VicRoads VASS Signatory is required. An original receipt for the purchase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
A Change of Description form must be completed providing new engine details and an inspection to confirm engine details is required.
3. Replacement engine is not of a type and/or make offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle, but is equivalent in general configuration, power, mass, and emissions standard to that of the original or an optional engine for the vehicle model and can be installed without any structual alterations.
The cha nge of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that engine, have been completed.
A Change of Description form must be completed providing new engine details. An inspection to confirm engine details is also required. An original receipt for the purchase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.
In my mind, this means as long as my mechanic signs something saying the EJ20 install was done in accordance with whatever the vehicle it came out of, Im sweet.
- This would probabily deem every MY 5 speed conversion as unapproved and every L series with a Liberty box in Vic the same (dunno of any of these floating around... yet).