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VL Turbo Fuel Pumps
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:32 pm
by Matatak
how rare are these??
i have a guy i no thru work who is tryna chase up one for me but eh hasnt had any luck (he does only scour the wreckers nto new)
i dont wanna see the price of a new one really as wheve got a spare EFI pump at work which was 150 and only a basic unit and guessing these are dearer.
is there another choice i can use, just any that will fit and do the job? why is it said to use these ones?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:44 pm
by SuBaRiNo
New ones are about $150 aint they. I don't think i would buy one 2nd hand... they don't seam to be the most reliable of things.... run em dry a few times and they **** themselves.
Another option is the EA82 EFI pump... i have tested one of these on my ej22 and it worked fine... they also have a thingo on em that prevents fuel surge... the VL pumps don't.
Dave
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:38 am
by subanator
I had a n/a VL fuel pump inline as an additional pressure pump to the Malpassi adjustable fuel reg, worked well.
If you were to buy new, there are some good Bosch ones to look at that deliver higher flow and pressure.
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:04 am
by redskin
Bosch 070 is a general purpose high volume fuel pump that will work very well, it too is about $150, a 2nd hand pump for me is no option, if you want reliability, always buy new on perishable parts.
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:05 am
by AlpineRaven
EJ22 fuel pumps are inside the tanks.
Other option is Camira (2.0 litre) fuel pumps are the similar as N/A VL pumps. The pump is located drivers side under-near rear wheel.
Cheers
AP
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:11 am
by AlpineRaven
Just clicked in my mind, its JD 1.8 Litre Camira, JE 2.0 Litre Camira, VK EFI (Not sure about carby?) Commodore, VL & VN with external fuel pumps, normally they are located in rear drivers wheel area where the tank is.
Its an fairly big pump its is approximately same size as a mug and slightly taller than a mug. - I'd say about 15mm long by 10mm dia.
Cheers
AP
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:54 am
by 90brumby
all the multi point pumps are the same 6cyl turbo non turbo n also the v8s all the same pumps
EDIT in the VLs
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:29 am
by discopotato03
The Bosch pump from the VL Turbo Commode is not hard to find , they do have the pulse damper as well but its not part of the pump outlet (extra gadget on VL's pump mount bracket) .
Power wise a VLT makes 150Kw which may not sound like much but remember Kw = torque x revs and an RB30ET is not exactly a high reving engine . Smooth and torquey in a 1270 Kg VL .
A VLT Bosch pump can easily handle the power outputs of most EA82T's given that they have limited breathing abilities .
My opinion only but rising rate fuel pressure regulators are a poor band aid for injectors running out of capacity . If your serious you'll change the injectors and use some sort of electronic interceptor to correct the std computers signals and air fuel ratio . Gee tells me that the Jaycar kit boxes allow you to modify the hot wire MAF meters output and even use a larger MAF . So with the ability to use larger injectors/MAF and have tuning flexibility your laughing . I also hear that the fuel cut from the MAF sensing high airflow (boost) can be side stepped as well .
Possibilities , cheers A .
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:42 pm
by sven
I bought a Bosch pump from ebay - to suit VL turbo / nissan etc. Think it was 070 from memory
Fixed all my woes - the factory one must have been near end of life.
Only comment being that they are noisy - even when mounted correctly. Only had it in a a few weeks, but will diffinately installing into the next EA82Ted subaru
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:27 pm
by discopotato03
Just out of curiosity what were the woes ?
Cheers Adrian .
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:26 pm
by Subafury
mmm yeh these things are expensive, $150-200 but like discopotato said its probs not worth it for your car if the injectors can only do a certain amount at a time. but yeh i wouldnt mind one for me either
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:11 pm
by Suba
I have one in the shed you could buy off me for a small amount works mint , was in Subi for about 3 years.
Mike.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:12 pm
by Matatak
subi wrote:mmm yeh these things are expensive, $150-200 but like discopotato said its probs not worth it for your car if the injectors can only do a certain amount at a time. but yeh i wouldnt mind one for me either
these are wt ppl use for EJ conversions isnt it?
u guys arent thinkin im tryna do an EA82T conversion are yas?
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:19 pm
by Phizinza
I went to u-pull it.. Got 1 MPFI EA82 pump and 2 more that looked the same off other cars. All of them work fine and I got out the gate for only $63 or something like that... I don't care if one dies as I keep another in the car at all times. Plus it was $120 od cheaper then 1 new one which may just die out of the box, who knows.
Yes, I run an EJ22.. And when the pumps prefilter isn't blocked I get plenty of fuel to the engine.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:26 pm
by Matatak
yer i heard only on thursday of a pick a part over here that was having some sale
cant remember if it was closing down or wt but it was everythign u culd carry (even engines) for 100 i think
saw it in the quokka.
and PM sent Suba
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:16 am
by steptoe
all you can carry for $100 ! Might be a sign of the times, a wrecker was dong this over this side not long ago. One other did it years ago for $50. Then closed!
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:03 pm
by El_Freddo
Phizinza wrote:Yes, I run an EJ22.. And when the pumps prefilter isn't blocked I get plenty of fuel to the engine.
What sort of pre-filter did you use? I'm interested in putting one if these into my system.
Cheers
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:45 pm
by Alex
im using a VL turbo fuel pump with my ej22 in my wagon, with no surge tank, just the carby fuel tank as well, havent had it surge or do anything wrong yet, but i never run it below 1/4 of a tank of fuel..
alex
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:30 pm
by Brumby Boy
Im using a vl turbo pump (non genuine) from repco, paid 120 for it brand new, also using a surge tank, just incase
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:35 pm
by VL400
Bosch lists only one replacement pump for heaps of commodores including turbo and atmo VLs, dont get stung paying turbo prices for the same pump.
They are good for more HP than you think, have one running a 350hp motor with no pressure probs. Good value pump but they are noisy.