Rear Hand Brake on an Ea82

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:39 pm

nah we know its a mess. its a rally car.

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:41 pm

wagonist,

I picked up WRX item. that fixed a few things but the bolts are still 180 deg out. I'll show you the bracket I made once I get my camrea working.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:28 pm

I'll be wiating with baited breath to see that.
Have you sat a console over the top yet though?

Also, I've had this brilliant idea with the help of a friend where you use the existing L handbrake & cables, plus the EJ cables
How's this for a handbrake idea (Yes, I'm slutting this idea around)
No mods required to the factory lever.
No mods required to the centre console
No extra holes to be drilled all the way through the floor.

Extra mounts for the cables are required though.

There is no bindage with this setup (ie the cables aren't on too tight a bend)
Now to figure out how to join the 2 cables together....
new longer inner cable runs at $47ea, or a complete new one runs at $80ea

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:11 pm

yes I have. it fits nicely and works. I'm considering swapping the boot over for mine just for neatness- the WRX one fits in teh hole and works. only change I have to make is the rear of the console. which I'll modify/rebuild to handle the rear exiting cables.

your idea is good however mine needs an engineers plate to be 110% road legal so I'm doing it as per factory.

pics shortly.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:20 pm

I'm aiming for engineering aprroval, too.
I can't see why my system won't be legal.

I just don't want to cut up a perfectly job console, especially when its in the hard to get black from the early RX turbos.

I've already had to grab another front console

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:21 pm

Have you tried console with the handbrake up? This is where I saw the biggest problem as the end of the cable adjustment hits.

Chris_Rogers · Post by **Chris_Rogers** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:23 pm

ring me when you get a sec.

Loyale 2.7 Turbo · Post by **Loyale 2.7 Turbo** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:36 am

ToyRX wrote:... honda part is a bolt on to existing backing plate etc. Apparently the story goes that Honda and Subaru used the same brake component supplier in the 80's ...

I Wish to Thank you for Such Great information, and Kindly Ask you for More Updated Information about how the Rear e-Brake System from the Honda, performs in the Subie.

I Got Rid of the Failing front e-Brake on my BumbleBeast and my First Idea was to Use a "Brake Lock" but I Dismissed that Idea...

More info about that, ~► Here.

Now I'll Start Searching and Collecting all the Parts Needed to do that Honda Rear e-Brake Retrofitting.

I Really Need to do that Rear e-Brake Retrofit, so any information, Part Numbers, Pictures and any Advice will be Greatly Appreciated.

Kind Regards.

rtcb65 · Post by **rtcb65** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:44 pm

The easiest way i have to fit a hand brake to the rear is quite simply , is buy a crossbred kit. Fits liberty brakes straight on.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:10 pm

You looked where this guy is?

I've done this conversion, but the car isn't running yet, so I've no idea how well it works on the street.

Parts needed:
Subaru Leone/Vortex (XT):
rear brake rotors
hubs (4WD/2WD type depending on your car)
rear brake pads
rear disc brake backing plate
rear caliper carrier (the fixed part that bolts to the backing plate)
rear spring slips that hold the pad into the caliper

Honda Prelude (series 2 facelifted version) BA3/4/5/7 from the early 1990s.
rear caliper (the part with the piston & handbrake mechanism)
This one:

I saw an Integra of a similar age that the rear end looked similar

The next model Integra may be the same also

Custom:
rear flexible brake line (the Honda one uses a banjo bolt, Subaru an in-line fitting)
handbrake cables (if you want to retain the Subaru handbrake lever)

The complete Honda unit won't fit onto the car, but the Honda caliper fits onto the Subaru carrier.
You'll need to trim the Subaru pad springs on the corners to fit inside the Honda caliper (when you put the 2 together over the brake rotor you'll see where it interferes)
In the centre of the back side of one of the Honda pads is a small pin. This is to stop the piston spinning (this is how the handbrake tension is adjusted). To replicate this, I then used a cut down split pin (similar sized to the pin on the Honda pad) pressed/hammered into a hole drilled in the correct position on the back of the Subaru pads.
I also fitted the left side Honda caliper onto the right side of the car & vice versa. This aims the handbrake cable over the top of the suspension to aim forwards (they aim downwards on the Honda).
That's it for fitting the caliper.

I didn't want to wreck the interior look, so to keep the Subaru handbrake lever (all these other conversion using a lever from a different car look crap to me), I had a cable shop make me up some long cables with the Subaru fittings on the lever end & the Honda fitting on the brake end.
The cables go forward in the transmission tunnel to where it starts to widen out & then I've turned them back down the tunnel onto the opposite side. This means the left side cable operates the right side caliper & vice versa. The cables cross over on top of the "centre diff" part of the gearbox.

To attach the cables, I drilled holes in the floor, and used "nutserts" & "P-clips" along the tunnel & on the rear suspension.

The most expensive part of the this conversion was the cables at about AUD$120. Brake lines were about AUD$30ea. Calipers from the wreckers about AUD$20
On top of this is probably new seals & pads.

Loyale 2.7 Turbo · Post by **Loyale 2.7 Turbo** » Tue May 01, 2012 2:54 am

Thank you for Such Great information, which will be Very Useful!

I Really appreciate that you took your Time to explain all that to me.

My BumbleBeast Subaru already has Rear Disc Brakes, the Front e-Brake was giving too much problems to me,
So I got Rid Permanently from it, as you can see, ~►here.

(So Sorry for the Yellow Text, the Background colour was Dark Grey when I Typed that, you will need to Highlight that text to become Readable)

Also, we have many of these...

wagonist wrote:...
Honda Prelude (series 2 facelifted version) BA3/4/5/7 from the early 1990s.
rear caliper (the part with the piston & handbrake mechanism)
This one:

...

...Preludes Here, that opens wider the expectatives of Finding the Right Parts for my Retrofitting.

I Have Read in This ~► Thread, that the Rear Disc brake's Calipers from Nissan 200 SX will work on the Subaru
"L" Series Rear Discs Too... But people wrote on the USMB that the ones from the Nissan 240 SX will be a
Direct Fit.

- What do you Think About that?

- Does anybody here Retrofitted Nissan's Calipers in "L" Series Subarus?

- Which Retrofitting is Better, the Nissan's (240 SX) or the Honda's (Accord / Prelude) Calipers?

Thank you in Advance for any Feedback... I Really Need my BumbleBeast to be Safe to Drive AND Parking,
because my Li'l Country is Extremly mountainous and we Have too Many Uphills / Downhills on Streets \ Roads
where sometimes I Need to Park; as you can see in the Following Picture of the Capital Twin Cities:

I Drive on City and Paved Roads / Highways During Week Days, and offroading on Weekends.

Kind Regards.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Tue May 01, 2012 7:15 am

We didn't get the 240SX in this country, and the equivalent Silvia was only a low volume 2nd hand import from Japan, so are impossible to find at the wreckers.
Therefore I can't comment on the suitability of the Nissan calipers and is the reason I went with the Honda version when I found out it fitted.

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:08 am

The Nissan calipers to look for are the ones on MR30 Skylines with 4 wheel discs . Some R31 Skylines also use rear cable calipers though these will be locally made rather than Japanese ones .

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Loyale 2.7 Turbo · Post by **Loyale 2.7 Turbo** » Sat May 05, 2012 7:21 am

Thank you for your Kind Help... I'll Start Searchin' for Parts and will Update if any progress is Made.

Kind Regards.

spike · Post by **spike** » Mon May 14, 2012 10:31 pm

i looked into some kits, came up the same price as rx disks which i couldnt afford.

The only reason i can see about a rear hand brake is for hand break turns and you want hydro for that.

if you want it to hold your car look for a line locker i think they were called, put hydraulic pressure though the full system

or a disk on the drive shaft, either or

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Tue May 15, 2012 12:58 am

showthread.php?t=3325

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue May 15, 2012 8:21 pm

RSR 555 wrote:showthread.php?t=3325

Going around in circles are we now??

Thought I'd point that out.

Cheers

Bennie

Loyale 2.7 Turbo · Post by **Loyale 2.7 Turbo** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:47 pm

RSR 555 wrote:showthread.php?t=3325

Yes, I Noticed that the Link is for this same Thread...

Well, I'm Still Searching for the Parts to do the Retrofitting.

Kind Regards.

spike · Post by **spike** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:15 pm

To get rid of the old E brake get one of these, locks all four wheels

if you want it on the rear for rallying well thats another thing all together

Loyale 2.7 Turbo · Post by **Loyale 2.7 Turbo** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:34 am

The Line Locker... it was Hard to View the Link but I Found it:

~► http://trickshiftperformance.com.au/zen ... cts_id=120

I Already had a similar Idea, but was Dismissed.

Look Here ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/sho ... p?t=130339

Kind Regards.