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EA82 into Brumby/MY tips & tricks ??

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:47 pm
by steptoe
If you have any - put 'em in here, or links will do.

Never really considered exhaust until recently, so now recommend the EA82 Y pipe for the job as it is ~6mm bigger ID over stock EA81 Y pipe.

The L heater hoses firewall entry differ to MY, so ditching the metal pipe from water pump back and intend to use a CH1687 from earliest Holden V8 , about 1200mm long but with a nice bend at the end to go direct from water pump, under the mpfi inlet manifold and go off somewehre to meet the heater tap.
I picked up another hose TBA that looks to do the job from back of mpfi inlet to the other side of the heater tap with the odd joiner.

Some have said reuse MY radiator - for that looks like a lower L rad hose will do for a top hose. Stuff knows for the bottom hose yet.
Have also seen an L radiator with EA82 in Brumby - just they have different mounting points at the top, and the locating pins at the bottom are opposite gender.

I have elongated the engine cros member engine mount holes for the EA82 wider points.

Also shoved the windscreen washer bottle further back to clear the dizzy.

Also followed advice in here and found a longer coil lead - retaining coil position to MY RHS rather than rewire to L position LHS, Think just need a coil boot for the end. Going to use matching coil to dizzy and standard BP6ES style plugs, no resistor plugs gonna be used.

Also, running an L box, so just L clutch and flywheel for the EA82.

Expecting MY accy cable to be same length

Just wondering about the engine stay bracket ? Use MY rod and bracket, L rod and bracket, a combo or custom ??

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by RSR 555
I've got an EA82 engine/box combo in an MY wagon that I can take some pics for you. Just need to remember, as the car is in the graveyard.

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:21 am
by steptoe
OK, Paul, that could help settle the pre conversion thoughts ticking over in head at 3.00am :)

Curious to know if it has L or MY radiator and if the hoses are single piece each end or made up and joined somewhere. Doubting any CH #'s still on them if it is in the graveyard.


And that stay rod and engine side bracket, whether it is MY, L or what.

Remember, that is hard, just add it to the heater box pics promised to Gothgirl89 :)

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:22 pm
by RSR 555
Can't tell you what was used as I didn't do any of the work but here's the pics as promised

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And was thinking this one might be easier to fit in

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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:43 am
by steptoe
Thanks Paul. Looks good. Says I need to retain MY EA81 stay rod and bracket. Looks to fit nice when no clutch fork in the way at least.

MY radiator stays in place with a one piece hose up top :) Might just be an L top hose ?

That'll be a saving - I modded my radiator space to take what I thought was an L radiator - turns out it was a Vortex radiator I scored from cruzingbrumby - they don't fit as easy - longer !

Coil is in a tidy spot, as I was planning, but the longer lead trick will save effin about to achieve same thing

Not sure if that is a heater bypass trick or it is hooked up from pics - didn't ask did I :oops: Likely have that sorted with my hoses selected off the long wall at autopro :)

Love to do the EA82T but requires exhaust work not in the budget, nor is engineering on the card$. Maybe when it is all in and running, I know what my mongrel runs like, then may 'just' slap a hairdryer on.

I have measured thermostat housing - 30mm radiator ID hoses are what is needed, stick that in my memory . Did Fuji stick to 30mm ID on J stuff ?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:42 am
by RSR 555
Sorry buddy, you did mention the heater hoses but I forgot all about them when I was taking pics. I think you're correct in saying that it's not hooked up.

Oh and it's not an EA82T

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:32 am
by steptoe
Not ?? Oh, did EA81T have a thermostat up front like EA82 does ?

EA81 had raised letters on the 'intercooler' as opposed to recessed on EA82T - just a little tricky to spot in the light.

EA82 like PS pump anway .....

AC receiver drier and charcoal swapped with battery .....
air filter box is different - noticed that....

OK on the heater hose pics, sure I can nut it out when the time comes :)

The pics are appreciated by me at least :)

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:34 am
by RSR 555
The dizzy is the best give-away :)

I thought you'd like it ;)

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:33 pm
by steptoe
:oops: , oj yeah, dizzy location :oops:

I like. Is it put to pasture for engine reasons or other ?

I seem to recall you are sitting on a Sertain EA81 - hoarding it or driving it Paul ?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:38 pm
by Silverbullet
That's an MPFI EA81T isn't it?? :eek: What is it doing sitting out there un-used? Seems a shame not to use it in something :( Only last week I saw an MPFI EA81 in the flesh for the first time on the floor at Subareck, my god it was a mess of tubes, hoses, fuel lines and wiring :shock:

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:44 pm
by RSR 555
I have plenty of EA71, EA81, EA82 engines in many different versions but room is my down fall. I wish I had a massive shed on a big property but need to win lotto. There was nothing wrong with the EA81T, it was the wife's daily but then we had more tin lids, so we brought a 8 seater van. I was thinking of fitting it into a Brumby one day but since playing with carby/dizzy EJs then I can't be bothered with the EFI unless it's EJ20T or EJ25T. Might just end up selling it??

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:00 am
by Subydoug
Not enough room ay Paul? I believe I can help you with that :D

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:44 pm
by Silverbullet
I'm sure you'd get a pretty penny if you decided to sell it ;) But being all injectors and such I bet you need the wiring loom from the whole front end of the car to make it work?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:15 pm
by TOONGA
How to make a brumby an EA81 turbo

1. buy the sedan Paul has (hope you have Walters Whites bank account)
2. Remove the dash + all wiring and the engine from the brumby.
3.Replace everything you have removed from the brumby with everything needed from the sedan. including the awsome bonnet badges :)
4.Enjoy turbocharged goodness :)

TOONGA

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:23 pm
by RSR 555
Subydoug wrote:Not enough room ay Paul? I believe I can help you with that :D
Sounds good to me Doug.. when can I move in? LOL
Silverbullet wrote:I'm sure you'd get a pretty penny if you decided to sell it ;) But being all injectors and such I bet you need the wiring loom from the whole front end of the car to make it work?
Pretty much as Jules has mentioned below.. as for price.. well I'm open to offers
TOONGA wrote:How to make a brumby an EA81 turbo

1. buy the sedan Paul has (hope you have Walters Whites bank account)
2. Remove the dash + all wiring and the engine from the brumby.
3.Replace everything you have removed from the brumby with everything needed from the sedan. including the awsome bonnet badges :)
4.Enjoy turbocharged goodness :)

TOONGA

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:31 am
by steptoe
Found on a link provided by TOONGA on the weber thread, someone who did weber+EA82 carb inlet manifold on EA81 describes with pics how an EA82 L Series lower radiator hose is trimmed to fit between EA81 radiator and EA82 inlet thermostat (aka top hose) when on an EA81

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:53 am
by RSR 555
steptoe wrote:Found on a link provided by TOONGA on the weber thread, someone who did weber+EA82 carb inlet manifold on EA81 describes with pics how an EA82 L Series lower radiator hose is trimmed to fit between EA81 radiator and EA82 inlet thermostat (aka top hose) when on an EA81
As the EA71 (which is almost the same castings as the EA81) came out in the L.Series, I'm thinking that the EA82 top hose would work fine, albeit a small trim may be required but why would you go to all the hassle of swapping the manifold? I would have thought the EA81 would have had a lot less crap all over it??

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:13 pm
by steptoe
I think a normal carby EA82 inlet is possibly a little bigger inside. I know my EA82 spfi (that is i for imported from USA) inlet manifold is wider on the ootside by about 6mm - which could be like breathing through both your mouth and nostrils compared to just mouth like a std intake manifold. I got mine for its throttle body to better engineer an LPG application

One less mpfi manifold in America, and negative, our on sebatical leave member over there did not source it.....

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:20 pm
by steptoe
Well, I'll be..found a hose CH2603 Mackay part # , has been used, but still wth nylon hanger cord and label :) Says it is a Leone 1800 EA82 bottom hose :)

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:32 pm
by RSR 555
steptoe wrote:I think a normal carby EA82 inlet is possibly a little bigger inside. I know my EA82 spfi (that is i for imported from USA) inlet manifold is wider on the ootside by about 6mm - which could be like breathing through both your mouth and nostrils compared to just mouth like a std intake manifold. I got mine for its throttle body to better engineer an LPG application

One less mpfi manifold in America, and negative, our on sebatical leave member over there did not source it.....
Couldn't say if there is an internal difference or not but I guess filling it up with water then pouring it into a measuring jug and do this to the EA81 would be a good way of checking.

Isn't the SPFI manifold a twin port? Have you got pics of it? Will the LPG setup be a dedicated LPG only?
steptoe wrote:Well, I'll be..found a hose CH2603 Mackay part # , has been used, but still wth nylon hanger cord and label :) Says it is a Leone 1800 EA82 bottom hose :)
Isn't the L.Series bottom and top hoses the same?? I thought that was the only good thing about the EA82