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An interesting way to spend the morning

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:59 pm
by TOONGA
take one EJ16 manifold

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screw firmly to a large block of 12x4 as I dont have a vice big enough

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take one reciprocating saw and an angle grinder think pleasant thoughts or of nasty school children

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and cut the plenum in half

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have a short break and think WTF aluminium cheese (its so porous that it was like cutting cardboard)

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clean it up abit with the angle grinder

then muck around with a 350 holley adaptor

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Im thinking cut the plenum off completely and make one around the bottom of the adaptor plate

how to spend the morning dreaming(mostly unsucessfully) of a solution to a carby manifold

TOONGA

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:51 pm
by Alex
bahahaha...nice one

alex

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:52 pm
by TOONGA
not sure how to take that Alex but I will push on regardless :)

I'm 95% of the way there, this is one of the last problems I face if I had a tig welder, a lathe, a mill, some time and lots of aluminium Im sure this problem would dissapear within a day or so :)

TOONGA

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:58 pm
by BaronVonChickenPants
A bit late now but wouldn't it have been easier to adapt a side draft weber/stromburg/etc?

Considering it's only a 1.6L and there's plenty of tried and true configurations for toyota's/datsun's/etc of similar capacity

Food for thought, or plan B in case this all goes horribly wrong ;)

Jordan.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:23 pm
by TOONGA
well as my signature has changed so has the engine I have an ej20 that Im going to graft EJ22 heads onto.(as I said 95% of the way there)

the EJ16 is being kept for another project using a front wheel drive box (top secret for now, in other words I don't have the money to do what I want yet)

as for a sidedraft weber (anyone got an ounce or two of pure gold they care to throw my way) I have 2 more manifolds :) Ive looked into that option and many others twin downdrafts, 4 motorcycle carbies(one for each cylinder)

The 350 holley was free and it works. sadly people seem to think sidedraft carburettors should cost up to six times that of a normal downdraft carby.


Laugh you all might but some of the best motors I have ever seen and heard have a carby/carbies not throttle bodies on top of them and no computer other than something to generate a spark

TOONGA

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:44 pm
by Morcs
I have often thought of a pair of blow through downdraft carbies with a boxer motor that is boost referenced while using a pair of small turbos for either side on something old skool like an ea81.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:25 pm
by AlpineRaven
Heh nice... what are your plans to do with it? - convert from EFI to carby?
Cheers
AP

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:06 pm
by TOONGA
AlpineRaven wrote:Heh nice... what are your plans to do with it? - convert from EFI to carby?
Cheers
AP
yep I've got nearly everything done just the reheading of the motor and the manifold

some other fiddly bits, wedges for engine mounts and an adaptor for the dizzy

and it should all be plug and play (famous last words)

TOONGA

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:11 pm
by steptoe
People laughed or doubted me when I got a big hole cut for a 465 4 barrel on a 4.1 litre manifold. Went tidy on the primaries and a little rich on scondaries and was best choice and gave best economy as well as power. Finish your ideas, but I will go on record as thinking a 350 2 barrel on a 1.6litre or even 2.2litre may just bog down a little at low revs, but when you get them up should go GREAT

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:33 am
by maxxair
Looking good as mate, lovin your style, will need some advice from you soon I think, as I have This>>>
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I was given the carb at by a guy at work, cleaned all the wasps out of it, gritted and painter it. the supercharger I bought for 200bux and am going to pull down and look at tonight. cheers, Rohan Maxim


ps, if you have more manifolds, I might need to get some of the injector spacer bits off you in the future (for twin superchargers. shhh.)

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:13 am
by RSR 555
Bhahahahahahahaha.. nice work boots Julian :p

I can't wait to see it in the brumby and the brumby jumping the dunes at Lancelin :D

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:36 am
by TOONGA
maxxair wrote:Looking good as mate, lovin your style, will need some advice from you soon I think, as I have This>>>
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I was given the carb at by a guy at work, cleaned all the wasps out of it, gritted and painter it. the supercharger I bought for 200bux and am going to pull down and look at tonight. cheers, Rohan Maxim


ps, if you have more manifolds, I might need to get some of the injector spacer bits off you in the future (for twin superchargers. shhh.)
Rohan care to mail me that setup :) and yes I will help as much as I can

I take it you are going to put that on an EJ motor I can't begin to imagine what it would do to an EA81 but it would be fun

and yes Paul the Japanese safety boots were the order of the day it was my hands that took the brunt of the punishment as my reciprocating saw bashed its way around the ally in places mind you I only scraped one knuckle

TOONGA

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:52 am
by RSR 555
TOONGA wrote:and yes Paul the Japanese safety boots were the order of the day it was my hands that took the brunt of the punishment as my reciprocating saw bashed its way around the ally in places mind you I only scraped one knuckle

TOONGA
Yep.. scraping skin is part of the job. I've got a lovely blister on my left hand after trying to remove one of Dave's spark plugs yesterday :(

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:31 am
by TOONGA
the lesson there is don't pull hot plugs out of and engine :)

I love moving a car getting under it to work and then using the hot exhaust as a grab bar to move myself under the car that one never gets old

TOONGA

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:57 pm
by justin35
Gday toonga,Great idea with the carby,:razz:an SU carby will fit if you unbolt your ej throttle body but im unsure if there big enough to run a 2.2???I was going to bolt a weber ontop of my manifold ,it only just cleared the bonnet tho with the aircleaner and i have a 2.5inch lift kit.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:19 pm
by discopotato03
Yes I reckon a reasonably big single SU would be the simplest approach .
Talk to Fabre Industries , or is it Midel these days , in Sydney .

Don't forget some of those larger Pommy lumps used SU's and some were suprisingly big . I think some Jags used 2" SU's .

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:26 pm
by TOONGA
Yeah the range rovers 3.7 litre v8 used 2 su sidedraft carbies but as I said in a previous post most people want 6 times what a downdraft carby is worth new or second hand

an example

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-55mm-WEBBER- ... 3a584717b7

money my family needs (not the brumby)

if somebody wants to sell me one cheaply or even donate one I will do backflips for you :)

TOONGA

SU carb

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:21 pm
by Bert
Got a rather large specimen 2" I think laying around here somewhere ifn you're interested

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:28 pm
by TOONGA
PM sent Bert

would you like to see one or two backflips?

TOONGA

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:57 am
by discopotato03
I think it was CD Strombergs on the early RRs .

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