Subaroosters EJ conversion Thread.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:25 pm

subarooster wrote:Thats pretty darn clever if you ask me RSR , but the problem is now rectified, acquired some longer studs and bolted the engine and gearbox together, lowered it all onto the mounts and came inside feeling that i deserve a beer. Yesterday arv the old man gave me a hand to line up the box and motor.. can you imagine the sinking feeling when i realise i need to put studs in first. so this afternoon, working the solo shift.. i pulled it out, installed studs, dropped in, lined up, eased together and tightened before the sun went down. sorry about the rant.. i'm feeling mighty accomplished at the moment. haha tomorrow i have the day off so i'm hoping to have it running by tomorrow arv. Cheers, Tom

Well done Tom.. You definately deserved that beer ( I'd have a couple more just to celebrate

) No need to be sorry.. I get the same when I feel like I've accomplished a job done well

Cheers,
Paul

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:20 am

okayyy, engine is in.. all bolted up. Conected all the fuel components up aaaand no go.

it cranks over lovely, theres fuel in the rail but on the regulated return theres really only a slow dribble coming out. I have spark and i'm about to see if theres injector pulse but i'm a little stumped at the moment.

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:38 am

Engine been run recently? The regulator could be blocked/stuck I've seen that happen. Should be a strong flush of fuel coming out of the return line when you turn ignition on and the pump primes. Are u sure u havn't mixed up the fuel inlet and return line connections? That's easy to do.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:16 pm

Just make sure too that the fuel lines are hooked up correctly.. when looking from the LH side towards the engine, the middle (or top one) is the supply and the RH (or rear one) is the return line.

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:36 pm

okayy quick update, got the engine to fire and run but it sounds like its only on 3 cylinders, will pull plugs out tomorrow and check the pots for fuel moisture in there and check the plugs as well, didn't try very hard today but tomorrow Suparoo will be out and we'll put on the finishing touches, hopefully be driving by tomorrow lunchtime.

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:43 pm

Sweeeeet.. if you like? try tapping the the injectors with the backend of your screwdriver.. sometimes they get a little sticky

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:46 pm

Sweet

cheers i'll try that tomorrow

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:53 pm

Okayy , very happy today

we eventually got it to run but it was only on two cylinders.. we had spark and injector pulse so we pulled out the first to injectors in the rail, tested the solenoid inside them and it wasn't engaging the needle and seat of the injector. so after giving it a whack with a blunt instrument a gush of dirt, grime and the most foul stale smell of fuel. so after cleaning them out, we put them in and all systems go

took it for a test drive and it feels so dangerous... I LOVE IT! haha

jollylseries · Post by **jollylseries** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:49 pm

hey, I have been reading through your posts. I've got an L series wagon and I'm looking to lift it and put an ej motor in. What is needed to fit a lift kit and ej motor, like the adaptor plate to mount it? Was that made by you or did u buy it from somewhere? If you don't mind saying, what was a rough cost on parts and so on in fitting the ej motor not including motor. Thanks.

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:28 pm

G'day jollyL, umm.. lift kit is fairly straight forward, you can usually buy a second hand kit on either here or ebay, Then it just comes down to fitment which you can usually do in a weekend or so. And as for the EJ conversion, i guess it comes down to how handy you are at fabricating/ adapting things together. I suggest having a look at ElFreddo's EJ conversion thread, i think everything your after is covered in there.

jollylseries · Post by **jollylseries** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:47 pm

thanks for that iv been looking at mine how did u over come the problems with the radiaor and brake lines wen putting a 3 inch lift in or are they fine as they are

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:47 pm

jollylseries wrote:thanks for that iv been looking at mine how did u over come the problems with the radiaor and brake lines wen putting a 3 inch lift in or are they fine as they are

brake lines - they're pretty much at their full extension. If you're looking at replacing your brake fluid it would be the best time to add in some extended brake lines. I levered the mounting bracket down to allow the brake line to have a little bit of slack. Not ideal but does the job just fine by me.

As for the radiator hoses. You'll have to work out what you need here. If you've got the EA still in there with the lift you'll have to lose the mechanical fan if you have one. The radiator hoses - top should still be fine to use, just loosen the hose clamps when dropping the engine down - bottom hose will need to be shortened.
If you've shoved the EJ in - you'll have to work out what you need for your application - it depends on the radiator outlets and the angle you've had them made at. I think I used a standard top liberty hose on the lower outlet with a little cutting and the top is two hoses with a joiner pipe in between, I have no idea what these two hoses came from - dad found them in his shed for me

Hope this helps you out. If you want to know more about the conversion side of things do a search for "EJ into L series how to write up" - most of the things you need to do are covered in here from my experiences with my conversion. That said its a guide, not gospel!

Cheers

Bennie

jollylseries · Post by **jollylseries** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:08 pm

thanks for all that it should be a grate help now just got to get motorvated to do it and would u recomend putting a thermo fan in wen i take out the other one or is it not needed

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:12 pm

Sorry mate, i disappeared for a few days but El Freddo's on the money there.

I'd recommend using a thermo fan, but thats only because i had overheating issues with my EA all the time so now i swear by having sufficent cooling. Its not a bad way to be i guess? As for the lift and EJ, i HIGHLY recommend it, definately transforms the L series.

jollylseries · Post by **jollylseries** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:59 pm

yeah really am thinking about it i already have 1 thermo fan but what i mean is if i take out the other one for the lift should u run 2 thremo fans and i got a 3" lift witht the car but not to sure if its all there got any ideas on how to work out if its all there and do u think it can be fitted in a weeked

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:41 pm

jollylseries wrote:yeah really am thinking about it i already have 1 thermo fan but what i mean is if i take out the other one for the lift should u run 2 thremo fans and i got a 3" lift witht the car but not to sure if its all there got any ideas on how to work out if its all there and do u think it can be fitted in a weeked

Get the lift kit together, lay it out neatly on the floor including the bolts with it. Take a photo, find a host site to host your pic (like imageshack.us or photobucket.something.I.can't.remember) and post it here or start your own thread. We'll be able to tell you if its all there. I managed to take my lift kit out in a day from the donor car and put it in mine the next day.

Currently I'm running one thermo fan but its really not going to do the job over summer. My plan is to look at possibly mounting three 7 inch thermos low on the radiator, just need to find out if the units I'm looking at will fit - this will be done by card board cutouts that have been made up to be the same measurements as the thermo fans. This will allow me to see IF they will fit before I purchase them.
You will want to try and run two thermo fans. An upgraded radiator would be the best step to help out with cooling - a two core is the go if not a 3. I've got a three due to the radiator shop I had the work done at not offering a 2 core build - only issue I have now is the LACK of space infront of the engine to fit thermo fans. I want to keep them behind the radiator so I can hook up my AC again.

Cheers

Bennie

jollylseries · Post by **jollylseries** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:52 pm

thanks for all that ill see how i go with it all

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:33 pm

I have modified 2 lower radiator support panels (my RX and i helped with Tom's conversion) it is so much easier to fit an EJ radiator than modify the L series one.

Plus if you ever damage your radiator, $80 from the wreckers and you have a new one, not having the cost of repairing or remaking the custom one

subarooster · Post by **subarooster** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:07 pm

Yepp definately what suparoo said above. ^^ We had the support modified in an hour or two and since having it in running with the EJ, the temperature guage sits just under a quarter even with spirited driving. And that was BEFORE i had the thermo hooked up.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:38 pm

subarooster wrote:Yepp definately what suparoo said above. ^^ We had the support modified in an hour or two and since having it in running with the EJ, the temperature guage sits just under a quarter even with spirited driving. And that was BEFORE i had the thermo hooked up.

I hope you realise that the temp gauge running from the EJ factory sender is incorrect? My L series gauge will show just above the "C" when the EJ is over heating, if you get 3 ml's above this and you're in the real danger zone.

There is a way to fit a resistor to the wire to make it more accurate but I'm not sure how this is done and haven't done much to find out about it...

Cheers

Bennie