Bolt on turbos for 91 n/a ej22

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Bolt on turbos for 91 n/a ej22

Post by caboolture » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:25 pm

Looking for some information about bolt on turbos for n/a ej22. Has anybody done one and what are your thoughts. Cheers Peter
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Post by Alex » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:17 pm

one word...NO.

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Post by BRUMBERTY » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:20 am

Here is a few more words with a bit more fact than the thoughtless dribble of the last post.

It has been done and with some success in the US, with normal NA internals too, some EJ22T parts are needed but they are BOLT ON as the question asked.
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Post by brumbyrunner » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:36 am

Not wanting to correct you there Brumberty, but to save caboolture's confusion, I think you meant
...some EJ20T parts are needed...
Some years ago I saw ads for EJ22 turbo kits in US magazines.
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Post by Alex » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:37 am

theres also a site in aus that do superchargers...but youll need a spare $2500....just do a turbo conversion.

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Post by AndrewT » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:57 am

I think in the US they actually have EJ22turbos.

But yeah, it's not worth doing. It's much better to just put a turbo motor in. They are designed as a turbo motor by the people who know - Subaru. It's false economy to turbo a non-turbo motor when taking Subaru. It works out similar in cost or even more costly and is ultimately going to be inferior and less reliable.

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Post by CPOCSM » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:16 pm

Keffa wrote:theres also a site in aus that do superchargers...but youll need a spare $2500....just do a turbo conversion.

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Jessus - the mini kit I bought 5 years ago I got no change from $5k

Still never connected apart from running in the new motor - 89.2hp for a 1013cc is nothing to sneeze at. Back on topic though - I am looking into the same company doing a kit for me for the soob - reckon it willbe the same price too - maybe I just get a fleabay SC12/14 blower - $300 landed. Turbo would be good but reckon the install would be a nightmare.

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Post by AndrewT » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:57 pm

$5k jeebus!

You could have an early STI WRX frontcut up and running in a lib for that.

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Post by BRUMBERTY » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:48 am

brumbyrunner wrote:Not wanting to correct you there Brumberty, but to save caboolture's confusion, I think you meant

Some years ago I saw ads for EJ22 turbo kits in US magazines.
Its fine Brumbyrunner, but I did mean the EJ22 turbo US SOHC version.
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Post by CPOCSM » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:35 pm

AndrewT wrote:$5k jeebus!

You could have an early STI WRX frontcut up and running in a lib for that.
Well I would do that but I dont think Mr RTA would appreciate a 2 litre STI engine in a 600kg mini...would be a helluva lot of fun though!!!:-D

Just on a side note - the supercharged 1275 minis will give a rex the fright of its life - but because of 10 inch wheels and horrible ratios(final 3.44:1)the rex will eat you upin the long run...worth it though when you are at the lights let me tell you - a smiling rex driver giving you the thumbs up when you get overtaken. The Starlet turbo conversion is very popular too - one fellow has a 1973 mini pulling nearly 250fwhp and is just insane to drive - not a lot but in a 600kg car it is madness - did wheelstands in reverse!

Sorry - off topic again

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Post by caboolture » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:37 pm

Thanks for the good information. Looks like i'll get donor rs or half cut. Thanks
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Post by AlpineRaven » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:39 pm

Yes there is EJ22T but they had different heads than N/A ones, I dont know why or what. But it was SOHC.
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Post by Subafury » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:03 pm

CPOCSM wrote:The Starlet turbo conversion is very popular too - one fellow has a 1973 mini pulling nearly 250fwhp and is just insane to drive - not a lot but in a 600kg car it is madness - did wheelstands in reverse!

Sorry - off topic again

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Post by Xtreme_RX » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:40 pm

The USDM EJ22T is nothing like the Australian delivered EJ22 (I just don't mean the turbo bit)

The block is different, The liners & wall thickness are different, the heads are different, the pistons are different, the cam profile is different.

Lets just say the only thing they have in common is the displacement 2.2L........
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Post by discopotato03 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:16 am

Gee tells me that some of the mob in QLD turbocharge NA EJ22s but the engine would want to be in top condition ring and valve sealing wise .

NA engines have the advantage of a higher compression ratio and slightly better cam profiles .
The trick is to use a turbo thats a little less restrictive on the hot side because NA engines don't have the thermal "reserve" that productuion turbo ones do , things like thicker piston ring lands / oil squirters / oil coolers /intercoolers etc .

If you do it mildly it could be ok depending on your expectations , if you plan to cane it then obviously an RS motor would be better .

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Good turbo could be a Rex TD04 rebuilt with the larger TD04 "HL" spec turbine .

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