89 Brumby courtesy lamp

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89 Brumby courtesy lamp

Post by Wooster » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:09 pm

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the above, specifically colour codes and power source etc?.........oh and any ricks of the trade?
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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:20 pm

Sorry, what's the courtesy lamp?? Interior light??

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Post by TOONGA » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:50 pm

Im thinking third eye for the brat wagon or hatch.

Could be the interior light as well.

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Post by Wooster » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:58 pm

Yep interior light mate, cheers

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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:07 pm

Wooster wrote:Yep interior light mate, cheers
From memory, one is permanent power, the other two are earths - one switched by the door. Unfortunately I can't think of the wiring colours.

What is it that you're trying to do exactly?

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Post by Wooster » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:14 pm

Mate, I'm trying to get the light working and also trying to determine the power source, trace the wires without tearing the whole interior apart. The light has a black & white wire & a black wire. The door switches have what looks like a connected black wire and a redundant red wire, but it also seems to have been played with sometime in the past. I assume the B&W may be the power wire which runs direct from a +source somewhere to the light then to the door switches which eaths the light when the door is opened , thus power..........but?????

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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:18 pm

I've had this issue too. The door switches were stuffed on "my" brumby.

I swapped them out with a set that were cleaned up from a touring wagon. I don't think the L series or Liberty onwards would work in place of the MY switch.

And the more I think about it the Earthed wire is actually built into the light, using one of the mounting screws ;)

Have you got a multi metre or a test light to determine which wire is the positive? Also is the fuse any good? And last of all, are you up grading the interior light or just trying to get the old dim one going again?

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Post by Wooster » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:28 pm

Mate, It's not worked since I bought the Brumby and is now the priority (until the paint job anyway), I'll have a play over the next couple of days and see if I can ID a power source. no ELECTRICKERY at the light itself, so will need to continue searching.
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Post by Silverbullet » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:10 pm

Bennie is right, one of the screws is the earth. So you need to have a bulb in, and fully re-assemble the light to test it. I learned this after I nearly threw away an LED panel because it didn't work when dangling from the wires :rolleyes:
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Post by steptoe » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:04 pm

one result showthread.php?t=22523

You will need to do some testing of what you have in the way of wires and when they change , so long as the door switch is giving a changed repsonse with a door open and close, and make sure you insulate the wires from the body and have a few spare fuses

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Post by Bantum » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:34 am

Wiring diagram for : Brat / Brumby ...

If you want to covert to LED's - look here ...

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Post by Wooster » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:58 pm

Thanks guys

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Post by steptoe » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:04 pm

i also upgraded to L series door switches

here:

showthread.php?t=21735&highlight=door+switch+Brumby

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Post by Wooster » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:52 pm

Ok, found a corroded and broken connection at the rear of the cab floor level- Repaired, I now have power to the interior light which does operates via the light switch- that's a positive. But nothing from the door switches. Still thinking the issue may revolve around the fact that there are two wires at each door switch. One connected, the other (red) cut & redundant. Disconnected the tested it , it has an unbroken circuit but does nothing, the red wire has power. Thoughts ??

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Post by Bantum » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:18 pm

If you looked at the wiring diagram, you'll notice that the circuit passes through to your dash ( door open indicator ) it then earths somewhere near there for the dash light. Power for Door / Dome light switch goes from fuse box, up to Dome light ( LY ), back down to Dash indicator light ( BR ), then on to Door switch ( LR / LB or GB / GY ) & finally earths there ( B ). Edit : The earth wire ( B ) after the door switch also goes to other places on the same cuircuit ie: side lamps etc ... It needs to be connected at the door switch ( the switch actually closes to complete circuit when you open the door ) or it won't work.

Note : + Check wiring diagram for colours ...

If you bypass the dash & switch the door directly to earth, the interoir light might work, but you'll have problems with other lights + your dash indicators that are connected to the same circuit ... :)

I hope that helps, Bantum ...

Note : I had to revise this several time's to get right ! ... :(

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Post by steptoe » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:22 am

think you found that the door switch handles the POS+ power for the light as I recall playing with switch and zapping wires contacts against body and blowing a fuse. I expected door switch just to be the earth side to eliminate accidents etc

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Post by Wooster » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:16 pm

Champion mate(s)

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Post by Bantum » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:21 pm

Yeah - & if you have something similar to this : Brumby Dash

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the door open idicators should show up here ...

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On the left of pic, to each side of out-lined car ...

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Loose wiring ...

Post by Bantum » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Note : If your still not getting any dash lights, check all connections to make sure it's still securely plugged in - ie: no loose wires or short curcuits & also make sure the fuse is not blown ... ;)

Addition : For the dash indicator light to work, the ignition must also be turned on ! ... :)

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Post by Wooster » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:12 pm

THanks mate, I have partial illumination of teh car outline, shall pull it apart when I get home this weekend from Menindee, 50 degrees at 5pm Monday, a bit hot! Will let you know

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