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EA82 performance

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:44 pm
by indy
Hey all just saw the previous thread about EA81 mods, just wondering is there any little mods you have done to your EA82 to get a bit more power out of it? i'm not looking to spend big bucks, but just wondering if theres some little things you added from the stock motor and you believe it adds a bit of extra power?

and also i'd love to hear about mods or changes people have done to their suby l series wagons body or motor, just to get some ideas of putting a bit of character into my baby and making it a bit better. any stories or info would be great.
cheers

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:10 pm
by CPOCSM
Get the rust in check and make sure the headlining is stuck down properly...I had mine come off while I was driving along to Sydney(the fabric - not the rubber backing...)

Disconnect the battery once a week for overnight and reset your ECU(I have the MPFI model Tourer) - I do it on Friday afternoons as I dont use it on week-ends. Reconnect it on Mondy morning and off i go driving it like I stole it.

Change your standard air filter for a K and N one - I think it makes a difference...and use Flashlube in your tank every 2nd tank - just keeps the pinging away and makes your injectors a lot healthier.

DO NOT get cheap wheel bearings off Fleabay - spend the money on good Timken/Jap ones(I had my front right fail after only 1000km - went back and spent the money on good bearings and no problems after 10000km).

Use a good oil and change it every 3-5000km - your Soob will love you for it and I find the regular changing of oil gets rid of the Tic tic tic that the EA motors have when they are cold. Some say it is over kill but trust me - it is worth it - I have a mini that has just spun a rod bearing - after 290,000km on the factory motor - considering they usually shit the biscuit after 100-150k.

Pamper your ride - too expensive to take shortcuts.

However - turbocharging would help...lolol

Hooroo

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:17 pm
by indy
haha cheers mate, just wondering what oil do you put in?
and where can i get the K & N airfilter from, would a retailer like repco or somthing sell them? or do you have to order it online sorta thing? thanks mate.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:36 pm
by CPOCSM
I change depending on the weather(Canberra pretty cool now so I am on a 10W-40 Penzoil)but usually I use Valvoline 10W40 when I can(it is a good price too at $27.00, Penz is $32.00). I just find the Penz works better in the cold than the Valvoline - but runs pretty dirty quicker than the Valvoline in summer. As soon as I see the oil changing, I drop it straight away, along with the filter.

The air filters can be ordered from Repco or your local K and N supplier. Ebay has them but be wary as the buggers charge you heaps for postage($25 for a filter - I dont think so!!). I still have one in my Tourer I bought 2 years ago - I just keep re-oiling it.

Keep your tyres at 36psi on the black stuff - drop to 20-25 on the offroad stuff.

Hooroo

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:18 pm
by Gannon
Probably the 'best bang per buck' performance mod is to fit a free flowing cat back exhaust system. 2" - 2 1/4" with a free flowing muffler should be quite sufficient, 2 mufflers if you like it quiet.

A Webber carb to replace the factory Hitachi will give a noticeable increase in performance.

Make sure your ignition leads are in good condition and your spark plugs are gapped correctly. Advance you ignition timing to just before it pings.

Do a search, im sure there is a thread already covering most of this

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:21 pm
by CPOCSM
COncur with that too - I had to replace the Cat so when I did I put a free flow on as well - went 2" from the cat back into a Super Sports non-baffled muffler(it has a really weird setup inside - glass packed and perforated alll the way to the tip - like a Lukey). I also run a hot dog resonator as it would have been too loud without it...I would thoroughly endorse this set-up as it is pretty notey and a really nice boxer burble but still tame enough to keep the authorities at bay...and no pussers 4" jam tin hanging out the back...

When you crawl under it, make sure you look at the bit of pipe going under the gearbox support - it cops a flogging and is usually crushed to half its normal diameter...bloody hell just the same as the mini!!!!(speed humps frighten me in the brick!!)

Hooroo

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:27 pm
by Dutchy
[quote="indy"]Hey all just saw the previous thread about EA81 mods, just wondering is there any little mods you have done to your EA82 to get a bit more power out of it? i'm not looking to spend big bucks, but just wondering if theres some little things you added from the stock motor and you believe it adds a bit of extra power?

There is no real point of doing mods to an ea82, the power they put out isnt worth trying to upgrade. my recomendation would be to do an ej conversion.
otherwise u could high flow filter (k&n), new exhaust or if u want to spent a bit more add a webber carby if u hav a carby engine or turbo for the mpfi engines.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:35 pm
by Alex
dont waste your money. Ive been there. absolute massive waste of money. your better off putting it towards an EJ conversion.

alex

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:50 pm
by CPOCSM
Alex wrote:dont waste your money. Ive been there. absolute massive waste of money. your better off putting it towards an EJ conversion.

alex

All well and good for some but for us mere mortals, we cant just decide to "upgrade" so to speak. I think what he was trying to say was that he wants a wee bit more until he can save enough for the upgrade:D...besides, my other projects take up all my cash and spare time(Minis and Patrols).

Shivers I had to fork out $185 for a tiny water tap for the mini - the BA Ford tap for the heater is only $60-odd bucks...Minis are dearer than heroin!!

Hmmmm can we shoehorn the H6 into the l series yet?? I wonder if an EJ would go into my Clubman...lol

Hooroo

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:03 pm
by Alex
then just leave it as is. trust me. ive tried this before and came out wasting $$

alex

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:07 pm
by indy
hey all thanks for the replies, yeah its a carby so a webber is a possibility for later on, just one question will putting a webber carby in increase fuel consumption?? and the exhaust could also be down the track, i will be getting a K&N air filter soon as im due to replace my air filter anyway! thanks all for the replies.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:14 pm
by CPOCSM
As I have - I dont see the oil/air filter and a less restrictive exhaust as a waste of money though...more like giving it as much help as I can...in standard form they are a bit sluggish - hence why I shopped about for 12 months for a MPFI touring wagon...they get you from point a to b with no fuss - and I like the fuel economy I get(700km plus to a tank...but always carry 10 litres in the back just in case:D).

Hooroo

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:15 pm
by dylan
for those of us that wish to dream, whats the around-a-bout cost to do an ej conversion?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:46 pm
by El_Freddo
Alex wrote:dont waste your money. Ive been there. absolute massive waste of money. your better off putting it towards an EJ conversion.
Agreed here. I got all the bits to rebuild my EA82 before I found out about the EJ conversion. Now I'm looking at the EJ option in the next year or so. The EA is getting old and I've found the problem of pulling threads while trying to put the correct torque on them. Not fun.
CPOCSM wrote:All well and good for some but for us mere mortals, we cant just decide to "upgrade" so to speak. I think what he was trying to say was that he wants a wee bit more until he can save enough for the upgrade
If that's the case, save your money to get the EJ bits, do the conversion yourself or with some mates in the know to save a pot load of money.
indy wrote:hey all thanks for the replies, yeah its a carby so a webber is a possibility for later on, just one question will putting a webber carby in increase fuel consumption?? and the exhaust could also be down the track, i will be getting a K&N air filter soon as im due to replace my air filter anyway! thanks all for the replies.
Webber use more fuel - HELL YEAH! Don't forget the cost of the webber and manifold/adaptor plate - I've seen one on ebay for a price that could see you get an EJ, loom and computer with some change left over. The EJ in theory give you better fuel consumption as its moving a lighter body around. As for the exhaust if you're considering an EJ move, save it til this happens - Just ask Alex, he's speaking with a lot of experience here after initially turning down advice on getting an EJ.
dylan wrote:for those of us that wish to dream, whats the around-a-bout cost to do an ej conversion?
If you do it yourself/with people in the know a lot cheaper - cost of parts is a big variable factor in this - Donor car or just the bits you need? It all depends on where you go/how you do it.
PM Venom, he just had his L EJ'd by a company somewhere in melb.

My 5 cents

Bennie

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:15 am
by CPOCSM
El_Freddo wrote:Agreed here. I got all the bits to rebuild my EA82 before I found out about the EJ conversion. Now I'm looking at the EJ option in the next year or so. The EA is getting old and I've found the problem of pulling threads while trying to put the correct torque on them. Not fun.



If that's the case, save your money to get the EJ bits, do the conversion yourself or with some mates in the know to save a pot load of money.



Webber use more fuel - HELL YEAH! Don't forget the cost of the webber and manifold/adaptor plate - I've seen one on ebay for a price that could see you get an EJ, loom and computer with some change left over. The EJ in theory give you better fuel consumption as its moving a lighter body around. As for the exhaust if you're considering an EJ move, save it til this happens - Just ask Alex, he's speaking with a lot of experience here after initially turning down advice on getting an EJ.



If you do it yourself/with people in the know a lot cheaper - cost of parts is a big variable factor in this - Donor car or just the bits you need? It all depends on where you go/how you do it.
PM Venom, he just had his L EJ'd by a company somewhere in melb.

My 5 cents

Bennie
Sooooo....when can you be up here then;)

I understand the virtues of the EJ conversions - I have a couple of old donks in the garage awaiting insertion and repair when I take the Soob off the road to do it. Unfortunately I have to get the Mini back on the road before I can do that as I need the second car(the partner has the Nissan Patrol!!). I have the EJ-18 I was originally toying with (do I waste my time???) , had a H6 and a EJ20T but sold them to get the Mini back on track and have a EJ22 arriving at the end of the week with only 35000km on the clock from a roll-over liberty in western NSW(kays are vouched for as I know the old fella...silly bugger tried to avoid a roo on a single lane dirt road and ended up in the culvert...:p). The 5 speed AWD box comes with it but will probably go to the DR EA82 box.

The poor Soob is feeling neglected as I am spending every waking moment with the mini and looking after the tin lids for holidays...never enough time in the day!!

Hooroo

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:14 am
by dylan
so i need to get hold of a liberty engine ay? in what years do the ejs cover in teh libs, or otherwise?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:48 am
by Subafury
+1 towards the EJ22 conversion. ive seen alex and others modify the tits off their ea82's for very minumum gain. even my ea turbo motor seemed a bit of a waste so im undertaking the conversion too.

any liberty 1989 to i think 98? had the EJ22 motor. check out the sticky threads in the modification section for greater detail.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:48 pm
by NightHawk
I wouldn't say k&n is a bad investment for EA82 since it'll last as long as the car, instead of buying a regular filter every year.
Otherwise, there's nothing to be done as a performance boost for that engine, not popular enough. I dream of putting EJ22T in mine :rolleyes:

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:10 pm
by Phizinza
indy wrote:EA82 performance
Two words that can never really properly be put together in a sentence.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:49 pm
by someguy
CPOCSM wrote:I like the fuel economy I get(700km plus to a tank...but always carry 10 litres in the back just in case:D).

Hooroo
Wow your lucky.

My EA82 Carby Engine is lucky to get 400k out a tank.