Have i been had on eBay?

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:13 pm

I bought a set of supposedly new TopGun ignition leads for my EJ25 and when they arrived, i opened the box to find Bosch leads.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/subaru top gun spark plug leads,new

The seller claims that she bought them and never used them.

I know bosch are probably just as good, but i feel a little ripped, even though i only paid $40 for them

Opinions?

What would you do?

AlpineRaven · Post by **AlpineRaven** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:20 pm

Are the leads exactly the same as the one in the picture on ebay?

I'd rather go for Bosch than other brands, currently I have blue NGK brand ones.
Cheers
AP

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:57 pm

Not what you bought based on ad. If you could be stuffed with a return and refund. I'd choose the Bosch name over topgun as far as leads go.

Post by **TOONGA** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:29 pm

in the strict terms of the auction you have a legal right to return the item as it is not as described but having said that bosch are way better than topgun leads (IMHO)

so you can file a dispute to get your money back or use the leads but leave feedback (positive but nasty:) ) stating that the leads while good were not the brand described and give them low star rating

TOONGA

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:53 pm

ive had a fair few high performance top gun leads but they were always a shit fit- the boots slid off my ignition coil pack. ok performance. better hope they are not std bosch ones vs performance (thicker) topgun leads. then id say its a bad trade off.

ScubyRoo · Post by **ScubyRoo** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:02 am

top gun = sh*t! I had these for a month before I bought the blue NGK that AP is talking about - thaey are the bee's knees, very happy with them.

The top guns actually came off 4 times on #1 cylinder, and twice on #3. Switched to NGK and will never use top gun ever again.

I'd say you got the better end of the deal, $40 bosche leads, thank you very much!ds

Post by **Alex** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:57 am

topgun>bosche>ngk.

bosch are worth more than topgun anyway.

the ngks are awesome tho. Id never use anything else after using them

alex

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:11 pm

NGK leads? Must be a West Aussie thing - never seen or heard of them in the east

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:19 pm

Keffa wrote:topgun>bosche>ngk.

bosch are worth more than topgun anyway.

the ngks are awesome tho. Id never use anything else after using them

alex

i think your greater than/less than sign are round the wrong way

should be

ngk>bosch>topgun

and i assumed NGK was worldwide. Supercheap even in eastern states should stock NGK plugs. and able to get leads in

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:10 pm

So with the knowledge that Bosch are the better of the two, how do i tell if these are new or used?

Post by **Alex** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:20 pm

topgun are SH*T

best leads ive ever had have been NGK

alex

Post by **TOONGA** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:23 pm

if the leads are in good condition they Should all be under 10000 ohm
on a multimeter if not they are cactus

how to do it select an ohms rating on the multimeter thats very Sensitive and connect one lead to each end of the lead and take a reading under 10000 ohms is good under 5000 ohms is very good

please correct me if it Im wrong but that what i remember (its been a long while since i tested a set)

TOONGA

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:12 pm

Ok i tested them, readings are as follows
2.62kΩ, 2.83kΩ, 3.45kΩ & 3.42kΩ

All well below 5000Ω so well within their spec.

My concern was how did the Bosch leads get into the Topgun box? Did a parts dealer accidentally put a display item in the wrong box? Did somebody return the leads they just bought, but took their used leads back in the new box?
Who knows?

I'll put em in and if they work ok, i'll give neutral feedback

pimp2plz · Post by **pimp2plz** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:49 pm

He probably put them in there and forgot about them the sold them to you.

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:18 pm

Keffa wrote:topgun>bosche>ngk.

bosch are worth more than topgun anyway.

the ngks are awesome tho. Id never use anything else after using them

alex

i think your greater than/less than sign are round the wrong way

should be

ngk>bosch>topgun

and i assumed NGK was worldwide. Supercheap even in eastern states should stock NGK plugs. and able to get leads in

Xtreme_RX · Post by **Xtreme_RX** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:54 pm

I will let you all in on a little trade secret about ignition leads.....

Quality goes -> NGK, TopGun, Champion, Bosch.
Bosch is the only manufacture still to use carbon core leads on their 'standard' range.
Bosch leads make auto stores money they have the highest GP % of any on the market....

NGK, TopGun & Champion use a stainless steel spiral wire setup.

Bosch use the spiral wire in there 'performance' range.

TopGun & Champion are made in Australia by the same company.

NGK are Japanese made.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:03 pm

Justin, where do you slot eagle performance leads ?