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1998 outback 2.5i Clutch Problems Not disengaging?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:44 pm
by KR134323
Just got a 1998 outback, my first car. Second day of driving it the clutch stuck.
I was coming of a highway i changed down to 4 but the clutch wouldnt disegage so it was like trying to flat change it. You can put the clutch pedal to the floor but it still dosnt disengage? I think that the pressure plate has broken locking them together. This sucks any info on what you think has gone wrong. And i havnt been doing burnouts.
Also does this model have a dual mass fly wheel or a single?
Thanks
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:03 pm
by Captain Obvious
got fluid? is the pedal hard or does it go straight on the floor? this will have a hydolic clutch so there maybe and issue here. so check the fluid and check to see if the slave cylinder is moving, i just had to replace rhe rubber hose on my gen3 RX.
bryan
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:21 pm
by KR134323
I have checked the fluid and its fool. The clutch seems to be prity normal maby a little bit harder then normal. Also i can not see it moving but i can hear it. Makes it it hard to check stuff on it because its parked at mates place not far away from were it happend which is like one hour way from my place.
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:17 pm
by AlpineRaven
I think Gen2 outback has cable clutch...??
Can you clarify if its '98 Gen 2 or Gen 3 Outback?
If its Gen 3 Outback it has hydraulic clutch.
Cheers
AP
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:39 pm
by KR134323
Im prity shore that it is a gen 1 with the square headlights. Thanks
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:37 pm
by AlpineRaven
KR134323 wrote:Im prity shore that it is a gen 1 with the square headlights. Thanks
There isnt any Gen 1 Outback at all.
This is Gen 2 Outback
This is Gen 3 Outback
Cheers
AP
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:35 pm
by bobbyjimmy
KR134323, are you in the US?
In the US, they call the Gen II Outback's Gen I's as they didn't get the 1st series Libety/Legacy (though Canada Post did...).
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:32 pm
by KR134323
Ah ok well yea its a gen 2. No I am in Austalia. I think im going to take it to a mechanic and get it fixed
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:40 pm
by AlpineRaven
KR134323 wrote:Ah ok well yea its a gen 2. No I am in Austalia. I think im going to take it to a mechanic and get it fixed
yeah it sounds like the clutch cable problem/issue.
Cheers
AP
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:38 pm
by El_Freddo
I'm putting my money on a cracked clutch pressure plate. I've seen a few on offroadsubarus.com now - I was very surprised the first time I saw one!
Cheers
Bennie
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:50 pm
by AlpineRaven
El_Freddo wrote:I'm putting my money on a cracked clutch pressure plate. I've seen a few on offroadsubarus.com now - I was very surprised the first time I saw one!
Cheers
Bennie
mmm could be....... dunno wait and see what he says...
Cheers
AP
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:46 pm
by KR134323
Thanks guys we will see whats wrong with it when i get it back from the mechanic. Im hoping that it doesnt have a dual fly wheel though because it costs heaps more for a clutch kit then. Thanks again
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:47 pm
by El_Freddo
Most people replace the dual mass flywheel for a solid when they do the clutch - that's the trend on ORS anyway...
From the thread on ORS: Had a bit(!) of a problem with my clutch a few weeks back. All of a sudden, the clutch would only partially engage (4000rpm for 60km/h in 4th gear) and wouldn't fully disengage when the pedal was pushed. Luckily this happened only a few suburbs away from home and my local mechanic's shop.
The NRMA organised a tow truck to the workshop (mechanic was rather surprosed to see me again so soon after having fitted new tyres and starter) and I left the car with them to fit a new Exedy clutch and solid flywheel in place of the OEM dual-mass (ie squeaky) unit.
Here's a pic of the cracked - more broken - clutch pressure plate from the 2002 XS forester:
The bad news is that it cost $2200 to get him back on the road with a solid flywheel and exceedy clutch
I'm sticking with this being your problem with trying to disengage the clutch.
Cheers
Bennie
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:12 pm
by AlpineRaven
El_Freddo wrote:Most people replace the dual mass flywheel for a solid when they do the clutch - that's the trend on ORS anyway...
From the thread on ORS:
Here's a pic of the cracked - more broken - clutch pressure plate from the 2002 XS forester:
The bad news is that it cost $2200 to get him back on the road with a solid flywheel and exceedy clutch
I'm sticking with this being your problem with trying to disengage the clutch.
Cheers
Bennie
jeez... that is bad isnt it... other cheaper option is to get a flywheel from wreckers and new clutch kit if in that case.. I doubt it that outback has dual flywheel.
Cheers
AP
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:19 pm
by KR134323
Yea that is bad, i reckon the same thing has happend. Find out next week. Thanks again
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:08 am
by bobbyjimmy
If it ends up having a DMF, here are the parts numbers and quantity's for the conversion to solid;
Flywheel 12342AA090
Flywheel Bolts 800610740 x 8
Clutch Disk 30100AA870
Clutch Cover 30210AA620
Release Bearing 30502AA051
RRP off all that is $1528.73.
Just the DMF flywheel RRP is $1878.90...
I know which way I'd go - or should I say, which way I went.
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:51 pm
by KR134323
Found out today what had happend, one of the tensior springs had come out new clutching going in and timing belt get it back wednesday.
Thanks guys for your help.