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removing a turbo for P plater
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:17 am
by kona480
so i'm thinking of getting a brumby for my first car. I have found a good one but it has a turbo so I was wondering if you can remove it and keep it for when i'm allowed to drive a turbo car without buying too many parts of with too much hassle?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:31 am
by chubby37
you would need to rewire it back to an N/A and put a non turbo motor in the car and then rewire it back to a turbo once ready....its a lot of work but if your keen go for it
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:32 am
by Outback bloke
It is not as simple as just taking the turbo off the engine. You would have to put another engine in there. With the engine you would need to get the coil and the exhaust headers to go with it.
You should be able to buy a complete running motor with those parts for a few hundred dollars.
You can leave the turbo computer and wiring in the car for the later date when you are allowed to drive the turbo.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:39 am
by chubby37
oh ok....can you run the N/A motor off the turbo ecu and wiring or you mean leave it there for the future when the turbo goes back and run N/A wiring and ecu next to it?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:07 am
by Suby Roo
The NA motor doesnt have a computer of any thing to control it, its carby fed. so its only ignition wiring and a few other things needed to do. no great hassle. And yes, you can leave the existing wiring in there.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:11 am
by Outback bloke
Fuel pump is another issue I just thought of. You would have to run a standard fuel pump as well. The EFI pump has too much pressure.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:13 am
by chubby37
yeah its an MY.....god i'm a dork....never even thought about that....need more coffe to wake brain..lol....
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:09 am
by Subafury
those laws suck. surely no one is going to suspect an ea81 or 82 turbo motor in a brumby- keep it stock and they put out less power than a std liberty. i dont see how those laws are fair- should be limited on power output.(even tho any car can do deadly damge at even 100km/h)
do cars get checked for turbo's or what?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:18 am
by chubby37
on a P plate you can not rego a turbo car in your name but driving one is a differant matter....it weather you get cought or not....they do pull a lot of P plate drivers over and check there cars....if your cought driving a turbo weather its had a secret convertion or it belongs to someone else your pretty much stuffed.....i think its a fine tho like driving unlicenced type of thing?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:04 pm
by Cam
dont they have exceptions for certain vehicles? is there a list, you cant ban people from driving turbo diesel work cars...
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:09 pm
by kona480
Cam wrote:dont they have exceptions for certain vehicles? is there a list, you cant ban people from driving turbo diesel work cars...
you are alowed to drive a turbo diesel
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:17 pm
by chubby37
its only aimed at cars/utes/4x4......work truck i dont think even come into it...any hi power passanger cars
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:00 pm
by stinky
maybe contact the dept of transport and tell them it's a work ute and produces less than 90kw, so it's not exactly a performance car. Also ask them if you set the boost controller to 0psi permanently if you can drive it.
Otherwise as others have said, it's not too big a deal to swap to a non-turbo engine until you're able to drive a turbo.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:46 am
by OKsubaru
If I may add comment. I have seen this exact situation on a turbo converted Volvo where the fellow worked through the night to 'simply' bypass the turbo with a section of RHS and plate at each end to remove the turbo out of the equation , register the car and then throw turbo back in . It ran a little odly without the turbo but it was registered
DO NOT TRY THIS IDEA AT HOME (disclaimer)
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:10 am
by brumbyrunner
Hi Nathan,
It sure sounds like a lot of effort to de-tune a soupped-up vehicle that would almost surely be more expensive to buy than an un-modified example.
My advice would be to buy a stock Brumby while you are on your P plates and either convert it or trade it when you get your open license. The turbo Brumby probably sounds like a really good thing (and they are) but there will be others.