EA82T cam and ignition timing expert required
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:32 pm
This is a bit long, so please put on your comfy slippers.
1. RX was going OK but used to mis-fire occasionally and didn't have a lot of power, so I thought I'd put an as-new distributor cap and rotor from an old EA82T
2. Installed parts, started and car ran - although a bit rough.
3. Drove out drive and obviously something was wrong
4. Went back to garage and re-checked plug leads - I had 2 wrong.
5. Fixed plug leads, started car and it idled smoothly.
6. Went to drive to work, car had NO horsepower but still idled ok. Was also getting very hot.
7. Tried putting old cap and rotor back in. Same problem.
8. Parked car and took train.
9. Scratched head repeatedly wondering why replacing distributor cap and rotor had completely stuffed my car.
10. Removed air-con and alternator to check cam timing. It 'seems' ok, but I don't have cam covers, so I'm not sure if the alignment is 100%
11. Checked ignition timing and it was waaay out.
12. Adjusted ignition timing to factory spec and car now goes much better, but sounds COMPLETELY different (kinda growls) and 'seems' to go much harder than it used too. But somehow it just doesn't sound 'right'.
13. Car now also seems to compression lock up a bit on starting.
14. The RX now idles at 2000 rpm cold and 1400 rpm warm, where it used to idle around 750-800 rpm warm.
My questions are thus:
a. Did I skip a tooth on my distributor side timing belt when the car was running rough?
b. Will an EA82T run if the cam timing is wrong?
c. How can I be sure of cam timing without cam cover alignment marks?
d. The car is a stock 86 RX, do I need to join any ECU plugs when adjusting ignition timing? (I did disconnect the vacuum hose)
e. Given point 12, should I just be happy that it's going?
1. RX was going OK but used to mis-fire occasionally and didn't have a lot of power, so I thought I'd put an as-new distributor cap and rotor from an old EA82T
2. Installed parts, started and car ran - although a bit rough.
3. Drove out drive and obviously something was wrong
4. Went back to garage and re-checked plug leads - I had 2 wrong.
5. Fixed plug leads, started car and it idled smoothly.
6. Went to drive to work, car had NO horsepower but still idled ok. Was also getting very hot.
7. Tried putting old cap and rotor back in. Same problem.
8. Parked car and took train.
9. Scratched head repeatedly wondering why replacing distributor cap and rotor had completely stuffed my car.
10. Removed air-con and alternator to check cam timing. It 'seems' ok, but I don't have cam covers, so I'm not sure if the alignment is 100%
11. Checked ignition timing and it was waaay out.
12. Adjusted ignition timing to factory spec and car now goes much better, but sounds COMPLETELY different (kinda growls) and 'seems' to go much harder than it used too. But somehow it just doesn't sound 'right'.
13. Car now also seems to compression lock up a bit on starting.
14. The RX now idles at 2000 rpm cold and 1400 rpm warm, where it used to idle around 750-800 rpm warm.
My questions are thus:
a. Did I skip a tooth on my distributor side timing belt when the car was running rough?
b. Will an EA82T run if the cam timing is wrong?
c. How can I be sure of cam timing without cam cover alignment marks?
d. The car is a stock 86 RX, do I need to join any ECU plugs when adjusting ignition timing? (I did disconnect the vacuum hose)
e. Given point 12, should I just be happy that it's going?