EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

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EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by El_Freddo » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Yesterday I sorted an issue on my brumby. The night before I went over a speed bump (not hard either!) and the engine just died.

I managed to get it started again, it idled for about 3 mins then died when I tried to drive it off. Couldn't start it from there.

I thought it was the dizzy module so replaced that with a new one I had ready for this situation. Still no go.

Did numerous checks and it all pointed to the coil. Got a new one. Still no go. Things were pointing back at the module. Replaced the module with a second hand one of unknown condition I had kicking around. BINGO - EA81 was a goer once again!

So in summary:

If your EA81 dies suddenly, check both the coil and the module - if you are suspicious of the coil run a known good one before replacing the module!

Hopefully this thread will save others a few bucks - as I've killed a $75 module that was straight out of the box :evil:

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Post by Silverbullet » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:39 am

+1 for always keeping spare module with you! if you have electronic ignition. Mine died half way round a left hand turn at some traffic lights, good thing I had enough momentum to finish the turn and ditch it into the gutter :(
It's worth buying the genuine/known brand units too, they may be more money but are more relaible.
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Post by El_Freddo » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:12 pm

Silverbullet wrote: It's worth buying the genuine/known brand units too, they may be more money but are more relaible.
Got the same brand unit (Fuel miester) in Sunnie the Brumby without any issues. It's been in there for two or so years without issue.

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Post by Suby Spanner » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:40 pm

Regarding coil and module replacement, it's wise to replace in pairs. The secret is in knowing it's called an 'ignition system', and by system it all needs to work pretty close to 100% to function correctly.

All too often I've seen people leave spark plugs too long between changes (our modern fuels are really, really hard on spark plugs) so a spark plug dies. As the plugs age, their gap gets bigger, and as a result the spark voltage increases.... This increase stresses the leads and the coil(s).... and then because the coil is stressed it makes the ignitor/module work harder!!!!

So I see a car come in with a miss fire, replace the failed plug lead, call the owner "it's running but I recommend spark plugs as well"...they don't want to spend the money. Guess how the phone call goes two weeks later?? "The cars doing the same thing! You didn't fix it!!!"

On Falcons, I don't even give them the option, if I'm replacing coil or module, I'm replacing both.

PS: Using a genuine second hand module can be better than new aftermarket (sadly this is the modern world)..... Yep, my shop ute went through two NEW brand name crank sensors within months. I ratted through my parts box, found a second hander and been driving on that for the last 5 years!

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Post by Nubaru » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:02 am

Its like the EL Falcon dizzy kits come with a coil pack and dizzy to be replaced together, or was that older ED stuff ?? Same I think
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Re: EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by BrisBrumby » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:55 am

Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers

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Re: EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by TOONGA » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:59 pm

BrisBrumby wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:55 am
Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers
BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

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Re: EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by Subyroo » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm

TOONGA wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:59 pm
BrisBrumby wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:55 am
Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers
BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA
Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095

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Re: EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by El_Freddo » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:41 am

That looks like them!
Subyroo wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
This guy has to be on crack surely! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095
Covid tax?? :lol: :lol: :lol: tell him he’s dreaming!

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Re: EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by TOONGA » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:46 pm

Subyroo wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
TOONGA wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:59 pm
BrisBrumby wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:55 am
Thanks for the tip, do you have a link to the module? Cheers
BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA
Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095
Yes they are the Automotive super store is the cheapest but I have no idea on their postage costs

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Re: EA81 dead in its tracks - heads up for others!

Post by Subyroo » Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:43 pm

TOONGA wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:46 pm
Subyroo wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
TOONGA wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:59 pm


BrisBrumby search for CM417 Ignition Module ebay has them for around 100 dollars repco and supacheap are a little cheaper.

TOONGA
Are these the same module Toonga?

http://burpengaryautospares.com.au/Igni ... le%20CM417

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/fuelmiser-cm417

This guy has to be on crack surely! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fuelmiser-I ... 4064808095
Yes they are the Automotive super store is the cheapest but I have no idea on their postage costs

TOONGA
Postage is $9.95 from Castle Hill NSW to Sunshine Coast QLD.

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