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been ofered a 85ish vortex turbo 1500 about good cond . acouple of questions concerning turbo is the water cooling realy cooling or water cooled intercooler . also how does the oil system work. i mean i havent looked hes just told me .that it only has 1 oil line to it . so my ? is how does it oil the bearings. my guese is the housing is mounted onto an oil gally . what if any bad things where with these cars. want to do a conversion into the brumby.
dibs

If it's an '85 then it is only 2WD. No problem really as you have that dual range 5 speed you showed us. They tell me that the rear discs can't be used either. So all you can use is the motor (loom & ecu), power steer and aircon compressor.

Re your questions:
No intercooling unless it's aftermarket and then it's anyones guess.
The turbocharger is watercooled and oil lubricated and has plumbing for both.
Bad things? I like the one in my white Brumby. It can stay there untill I can get my hands on the new diesel. Discopotato and QIKRX seem to like theres. Anything EJ will kick their but.

Hope it's cheap.

Can I have the front seats? I'll give you a QUICK ride in the gold car.

I only have the mechanicals/electricals not a Vortex car itself .
The best of my collection is going into an 85/86 RX-T .

Yes early Vortex Turbo is like a front wheel drive 85/86 RX-T in a larger heavier shell . The rear discs (exc hubs) calipers and back plates are as per RX-T .
Usable bits would be possibly the early 3 plug EA82T engine and turbo drive shafts/CV's

Vortexes are a bit way out for my liking and spares are getting hard to find for their more unique bits . L's are far more common and smaller/lighter in a sedan .

I hope to give a few EJ powered things a real big hurry up so we'll reserve judgement on the anything EJ powered !

Cheers A .

The shape of the wiring loom is different to the L series. The loom comes through the centre of the firewall, not from in front of the driver's side shock tower. Dunno if this will be a problem, but i'm guessing that you don't want to be hacking up the brumby if you don't need to be...

And brumbyrunner is correct about the rear hubs, 2wd hubs run on a stub axle like a trailer's hub, the 4wd hubs bolt onto the drive shaft (its these hubs that are the hardest part to get for the rear disc conversion).

Good luck with it all, it'll be fiddly and most likly just a little less work than an EJ conversion... Not meaning to put you off or anything.

Cheers

Bennie

discopotato03 wrote:I only have the mechanicals/electricals not a Vortex car itself .

I hope to give a few EJ powered things a real big hurry up so we'll reserve judgement on the anything EJ powered !

Dibs is only asking about the EA82T of which you have, and obviously like, for your RX. I never sugested you had a Vortex.

Wouldn't you agree, generally speaking, that an EJ converted Brumby would be more powerful than an EA82T converted one?

In a Brumby or L yes , cam box converted EA82's don't fit so well in MY's so not an easy swap .

Power is subjective , if you can get it to the ground and make it stick around corners it works . Otherwise its a less stressed engine and more stressed drive train .

Cheers .

discopotato03 wrote:Power is subjective , if you can get it to the ground and make it stick around corners it works . Otherwise its a less stressed engine and more stressed drive train .

That all depends on what you put behind the EJ. I know the suspension will take a bit of a hammering no matter what you put in there, but as for gearbox/diff etc, these are easily swapped out for something better. An AWD gearbox in there would help reduce the stress of accelerating than that of the 2wd gearboxes...

Bennie

PS what's a cam box converted EA82?

now im a bit confused .

what motor is in the vortex and does it fit (what mods apart from general stuff)

it is 2wd and dont realy want much else just things to make the brumby work

whats special about the seats m8 if there worth it to you yup there yours and the rides mine hhahaahahaha

got told the other day to use a motec puter

im working for the guy on thursday so i will sus it out more mite even get some pics.

from another point of interest the trucks back on the road. working nite shift on east west art rd .if ya go past yell out lol .

ta all dibs

Dibs basically there is an early and late version of the EA82 EFI engine and same deal with the EFI Turbo versions .

The series 1 type , if you like , has a more basic engine management system that controls fuel injection only - not ignition timing .
From what I can tell series 1 engines were made from 85 to early 87 and series 2 from ~ mid 87 to at least 89 if not a little later . The series 2 engines used a more sophisticated engine management system and very slightly better camshafts .

Vortexes also had the series 1 and 2 engines though the later ones used the better flowing spider type inlet manifold .
Also some people say that the Vortex exhaust header is slightly larger where it feeds into the turbo .

EA 82's are the widest from memory of Subaru's flat fours and this makes them difficult to fit in an MY with its narrower spaced body rails .

Gee originally pointed out to me that in basic terms an EA82 is virtually a cam box converted EA81 . The cam box is the carrier plate with the cam bearing holes that bolts on the tops of EA82 cylinder heads . This is a cheap way of making an engine that uses push rods and rockers into an over head cam one but don't try this as there are minor changes in the shapes of EA81 and 82 head castings . Also the porting is better IMO in EA82 EFI (twin inlet port) heads . These 82 heads are far from perfect and can be improved with a bit of porting .
The reason why EJ heads are much more compact height wise is that their cam shaft/s (ie SOHC/DOHC) are down in the head casting so overall EJ's aren't nearly as wide as an EA82 .

Your call but a Motec is a rather expensive way of running an EA82 , IMO interceptors such as the Jaycar one and the second series EFI system makes for affordable performance .

Cheers A .

You'd better have a good look at it and post up some pics if you want definative answers.
Bu it's my understanding that the 1985 model only got an injected, n/a, EA82 with 2WD (used to own one). The 1986 model got an EA82T (turbo) but still only 2WD. Then the 1987 to 89 models were full time, single range 4WD with the EA82T.
As for fitting to an MY, the front chassis rails have to be widened and radiator capacity increased. All this has been many times before on this board so look around.

ta guys
gunna take som pics on thursday and a tape measure to lol . i hear what your all saying and am holding all words of wisdome . mite get to build the blown motor yet . just thought factory turbo would be easier.

and you miss out on ya seats lol


ta again dibs

ok just got home from looking at the vortex. its an86 turbo 2 wheel drive manual. left cam adjuster gone west . so im up for new belts adjuster tapet cover gaskets .
has new clutch and preasure plate just looks od as battrie on diferent side air box on iner right guard and the wiring o the wiring. i hope my lecky knows what to do hahahaha.o and the fan its on the pump so do i just pull it of and use my ac fan ?
(pity celtic didnt fit motors id send it up there )he could do the lot lift ,5 speed, power steer ,motor ,may as well paint it to hehehehe



thanks dibs

or should i do some other swap


dibs