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Carburetored EJ22 - Pics found

Post by Gannon » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:54 am

Was brousing the USMB and came across new project lifted EA82 with EJ22 and no computer

And then remembered the thread from here a while back ej carb engines?

This guy reckons it has a webber carb and an escort distributor
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Post by 90brumby » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:02 am

interesting i was considering doin this to my brumby but since changed my mind but that looks good
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Post by AndrewT » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:47 pm

Eww why would you do it! Downgrade a perfectly good injected engine :/
Getting a loom cut down to run the engine in standard form in an old car isn't a huge problem these days.

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Post by Captain Obvious » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:26 pm

andrew, ive seen these used in boats and like, no need to run computers and stuff
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Post by BRUMBERTY » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:50 pm

The simple version has to be concidered for a specific application.
I am doing a very similar thing, in the Jetboat.
A Weber and an electronic distributor is as complex as it needs to be.
It's the last spot you would want an ECU.
Horses for courses.

It is nice to know that it can be done on a simple level- with a late model motor.
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Post by Gannon » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:58 pm

BRUMBERTY wrote:I am doing a very similar thing, in the Jetboat.
So did you find a carby EJ, or are you customising an efi one?
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Post by steptoe » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:12 pm

looks convincing. i think the 'escort' is not the 'escort' we are used to here in Australia, but maybe a much more recent UK model. looks to have a plug in of some sort, and that screwdriver must be a real basic hose stopper !

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Post by BRUMBERTY » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:37 pm

Suparoo wrote:So did you find a carby EJ, or are you customising an efi one?
Tig welding a 32/36 to the inlet, same as they seem to have done.\
The distributor is from a Fiori, ford stuff does work, I am sure there are others.
an offeset drive on any 4 cyl. one would work.

Steve @ rising sun put me onto this ages ago, I had it driving my lpg EJ22.
Waiting for the boat for a while now.
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Post by SuBaRiNo » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:34 pm

Jaffa / Blackmale could be buying a MY sedan shorly that has an ej18 carby motor in it. Very interesting little motor... his one obviously used to be EFI and was converted carb later.

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Post by Gannon » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:37 am

Did factory carbs have the injector bosses on the intake manifold? The one in the pic above looks like it has injectors.
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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:26 pm

Suparoo wrote:Did factory carbs have the injector bosses on the intake manifold? The one in the pic above looks like it has injectors.
yep agree with that. I'd leave them there as they make an easy bung, otherwise make up some other sorta plug...

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Post by AlpineRaven » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:13 pm

yeah i agree what Bennie said.. heard they do provide more power than MPFI ones...
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Post by Phizinza » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:02 pm

At least with no ECU you would never get the dirty IAC problems, crappy TPS, VSS trouble and that bloody "safe mode" crap with default fuel maps.
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Post by AlpineRaven » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:35 am

Phizinza wrote:At least with no ECU you would never get the dirty IAC problems, crappy TPS, VSS trouble and that bloody "safe mode" crap with default fuel maps.
You would need ECU to run the engine for ignition timing and sensors, its not just like these EA82 engines without ECU.
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Post by SUBYDAZZ » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:06 am

Excuse my ignorance but how does one drive that distributor?
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Post by BRUMBERTY » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:08 am

Dazz on the rear of the drivers side head there is a blanking plate held on with two 10mm bolts.

Under that is an offset drive on the back of the cam.

There is a few distributors which use the same offset.

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A hole can be drilled in this plate and an O ring seals the shaft.
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Post by Phizinza » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:51 pm

AlpineRaven wrote:You would need ECU to run the engine for ignition timing and sensors, its not just like these EA82 engines without ECU.
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With Carby, no sensors needed to run (only needed for legal reason that I could imagine.)
Ignition timing? Did you see all the talk on distributors and pictures?

I'm on UltimateSubaru and have read a few stories about carbed EJ's. All running carbs because they didn't want an ECU for what ever reason. Theres even a video on youtube of a guys EJ in a Brat running with a weber.
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Post by Dutchy » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:43 pm

Quick question does any1 have any knowledge on how well a webber carby would run on the EA82?

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Post by vincentvega » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:12 pm

AlpineRaven wrote:You would need ECU to run the engine for ignition timing and sensors, its not just like these EA82 engines without ECU.
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did you miss the rest of this thread ? ;)
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Post by thesaidbin » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:23 pm

here is a great youtube vid of a carby ej22 in a MY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WScRBmKsV3U

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