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weber pro's and con's
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:19 pm
by Alex
hey fellas
ive got a l-series wagon and i wanna get every bit of power i can out of the ea82, i'm looking at a weber carby, just wanna know the pro's and con's, and also the main things i should look out for
cheers
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:01 pm
by LTurbo
Getting a weber carby is a good step.
Basically you put your foot down and you'll get more power but fuel economy suffers. But drive conservatively (no secondaries) and if its tuned right you'll get better fuel economy than standard. best of both worlds :P
There is a fair amount of info about the webers on here, just search around and you'll find it as a few have done the conversion recently.
Check these out:
http://www.ausubaru.com/main/modules.ph ... ight=weber
http://www.ausubaru.com/main/modules.ph ... ight=weber
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:45 pm
by SuBaRiNo
I agree with the up-sides as i used to run a webber myself. When u run it flat foot it used more fuel but driving normally she was better on fuel. Performance was very noticable.
Only downside i had i guess was that i could never work out how to hook up the choke so i never had one. Not that i ever really needed it.
Dave
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:45 am
by subanator
SuBaRiNo wrote:I agree with the up-sides as i used to run a webber myself. When u run it flat foot it used more fuel but driving normally she was better on fuel. Performance was very noticable.
Only downside i had i guess was that i could never work out how to hook up the choke so i never had one. Not that i ever really needed it.
Dave
Ditto Daves comments, as I have his old carby!!
Up side is that you can run higher advance, but that requires Premiem fuel to run without pinging and does even out pretty well due to more mileage from that fuel for increase of power. Win both way
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:17 pm
by Alex
is it true you loose low down torque? Because i like to do a bit of offroading!
Also ive been to places and theyve all said, "its almost 2006", basically saying its too old, and that it aint worth it
alex
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:58 pm
by smoov
gain power all round. bottom end to top end.
alex
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:23 pm
by flat04
90subiewgn wrote: "its almost 2006"
What a great sales pitch
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:23 am
by fredsub
90subiewgn wrote: "its almost 2006", basically saying its too old, and that it aint worth it
hehe I think carbys are vintage these days
you'd have to find an old school mechanic to know what it is and work on it.
Sure a carby is a simple concept in the basic form, but the requirments over the years have culminated in an intricate mechanical thing, and its much harder mechanically to design them for both economy + power.
FI is now cheaper to manufacture, easier to modify power or economy, and more reliable.
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:34 pm
by Andrew
even though i dont own a carbied car.
I would never take any vehicle i own to a mechanic that couldnt work on a carby.
As far as im concerned Its a fundamental part of being a mechanic and if one didnt know what to do with one that is very concerning.
carbs still make great power.
EFI is not cheaper. But it allows tuning to get emmissions and fuel consumtion down and driveability,reliability and diagnostic abilities up
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:31 pm
by fredsub
As far as im concerned Its a fundamental part of being a mechanic and if one didnt know what to do with one that is very concerning.
used to have a carby ea82, now its a t, I'd say it needs a great deal of practice and experience to know the ins/outs of carbys,esp as they have a
very qirky nature when not behaving....gee i'm glad I got rid of mine,got tired of its complaining...
don't the new mechanics these days like to be known more as automotive technicians ?......probably something about being able to wheel up the test cart,plug in, play with some buttons, and walla! thats the problem.....
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:54 pm
by Ben
Carby's suck, EFI pumps, simple as that.
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:54 pm
by Andrew
bwahahaha ben
yes but when that fails (and it does) it goes to the guy who knows his stuff.
Incidently i know a mechanical buisness that does the "too hard" work for all of the local dealerships
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:19 pm
by cameron
I use and sell Webers as they are the best replacement carb on the market. The standard carb (Hitachi) does a good job for the size it is but for outright power and performance the Weber is the next best thing to injection. But......this all means naught if it isn't jetted to suit your car. You can yank a 32/36 off a cortina and bolt it to your EA and it will run. But flooding can occure at mid throttle and lean out at full. Not trying to discourage anyone but if you fit a Weber, get it jetted by someone that knows what an emmulsion tube is and where it's found. By the way a F50 or F66 found in most Ford Webers don't work on Subaru's. I hope to get my old homepage up and running soon, so it may answer your questions.