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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by El_Freddo » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:07 am

Do you know how to do your own compression test?

Or take it to a second mechanic to see what they say. I’ve seen an EA82 run on two cylinders when I did my cam belt incorrectly - it was a bitch to start and was gutless at best. To get moving low range was needed.

Also you’d notice the miss at idle for sure.

The EA82 doesn’t have a great deal of engine braking capacity from memory.

Find a decent engine and drop it in. Easiest solution if the engine is actually dead.

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:14 am

I've got the mechanic to source another motor, he's found one locally that he's going to inspect on Monday. It's still in a car and is running, apparently it's got good compression on all cylinders but he wants to test it as well. At least with an engine swap we get to to pick and choose the better components from both and keep the others as spares. I'd like to do a proper engine reco, wether it be an EA or an EJ but I just want to get it registered and on the road at this point. My little $500 wagon has quickly become a $2000 wagon and still not registered :oops:

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by El_Freddo » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:59 pm

johnnyjoejoejr wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:14 am
My little $500 wagon has quickly become a $2000 wagon and still not registered :oops:
Mine was kind of the same. $500, trailered it from Yankandandah, got it home and found milky oil. Started head gasket replacement and found a cracked cylinder bore. Threw that engine out and started an MPFI conversion with an engine rebuild on the side. Add 18 months and it was finally registered (also treated rust under the windscreen before rego).

Now my $500 wagon is a bit of a monster that’s cost me a lot more over the last 10 years but I love it :D

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:24 pm

We rarely take these on because they're economically viable, do we?! I've had an itch that couldn't be scratched since I parked my P76, driving late model cars is comfortable and convenient, but it's also really boring and there's nothing to learn or be challenged by.

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by Silverbullet » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:55 am

johnnyjoejoejr wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:24 pm
We rarely take these on because they're economically viable, do we?! I've had an itch that couldn't be scratched since I parked my P76, driving late model cars is comfortable and convenient, but it's also really boring and there's nothing to learn or be challenged by.
Right on! :mrgreen:

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by steptoe » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:28 pm

Only 2WD ? Does this mean it has a FWD box in it? Rear drive gear deleted such as axles, rear diff, diff hanger etc gone?
So assuming FWD box it is an EA82 L Series 5 speed. Sounds like you don't care too much about paying someone else to maintain - these babies are pretty good for learning car maintenance and repair. Subaru dealers used too replace the Hitachi with a Weber when necessary due to cost so you would think it is an endorsed repair by Subaru so not a problem for rego inspectors. Never run an EJ in a Brumby before - but I have one and its gearbox sitting in one at the moment :) . I run EA82 in my daily Brumby in various forms and mighty happy with them, but never a single port carb EA82 - I prefer the twin port mpfi (with or without turbo - don't mind :) ) You didn't lose - think of it as buying a tailgate for $500 and getting the rest for free ! I don't kapisch the 20 and 80 psi readings at all - but they are only idle speed indications. As far as the tank fuel gauge - it is a rough guide to half, then rough again to empty. The 400,000 km is on the speedo? not the engine. Ute may have done 300 to 400,000 on the EA81 then had the donor shoved in. To go to EA81 would be an insult to your ears - unless you like chaff cutters

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:46 pm

Hey steptoe, thanks for the info. I think you've misread my original post, I didn't end up getting a brumby, I was looking at a few but I impluse purchased an L series wagon. I'd like to do work on it myself but don't have the space or tools to do major work and I haven't got it registered yet. I'm basically at the mercy of the mechanic until its got plates on it so I can park it on the street without getting a canary.

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by El_Freddo » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:42 pm

@steptoe - the series one and some early import (I think) series two wagons were front wheel drive from factory.

I saw a few in the parts yards back when you could find a number of L’s in there.

And an EA81 would be an upgrade in the L series over the EA82... bullet proof without the rubber bands to run the cams ;)

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by L-Rex » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:53 am

El_Freddo wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:42 pm
And an EA81 would be an upgrade in the L series over the EA82... bullet proof without the rubber bands to run the cams ;)
An even better upgrade would be the Diesel. No rubber bands, awesome ECU remap potential, and mind-numbing torque off idle.

When they come down in price, I might look at sandwiching one into an unsuspecting wagon... :lol:
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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by Subyroo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:58 am

L-Rex wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:53 am
El_Freddo wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:42 pm
And an EA81 would be an upgrade in the L series over the EA82... bullet proof without the rubber bands to run the cams ;)
An even better upgrade would be the Diesel. No rubber bands, awesome ECU remap potential, and mind-numbing torque off idle.
You just need to get by the DPF issue. :evil: :evil:

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by L-Rex » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:58 am

Subyroo wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:58 am
You just need to get by the DPF issue. :evil: :evil:
It's city driving, and zero freeway driving, that kills the DPF

Nothing that a remap and a delete pipe won't sort out. :lol:

Or you can buy a reasonably inexpensive scan tool and do a force burn every now and again.
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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by El_Freddo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:23 pm

L-Rex wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:53 am
El_Freddo wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:42 pm
And an EA81 would be an upgrade in the L series over the EA82... bullet proof without the rubber bands to run the cams ;)
An even better upgrade would be the Diesel. No rubber bands, awesome ECU remap potential, and mind-numbing torque off idle.

When they come down in price, I might look at sandwiching one into an unsuspecting wagon... :lol:
Yeah that would be awesome - you’ll definitely want AWD with that monster out front!

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Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:12 am

Update on the moneypit: got a second-hand motor from the wreckers to go in. The motor was in a running car, has good compression on all cylinders. Has been rebuilt at some point, it has the heat tags on the back of the block that fall off when the motor is cooked, and the block is very clean. Replacing all the seals, timing belt and thrust bearing while the motor is out, clutch plate from my original motor is the better of the two so we'll swap that over as well.

Only other change is going to be moving to a manual choke, the new motor has the better looking carb, the electric choke sounds like it has a few problems. Had a good look underneath while it was on the hoist, the advantage of being the 2WD model is it hasn't been bashed around so the undercarriage is pretty neat. CV joints, boots and bushes all look good, exhaust is good except for the muffler. Just trying to decide wether I get a cheap replacement of the muffler, or bite the bullet and put a new 2 1/4 inch system in. I don't want to spend more money than I have already, but I've already come this far...

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by L-Rex » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:30 pm

Glad you are getting some success!

2.25" exhaust is way too big, you will lose all your low end torque. 2" is just fine, even with a Weber, cams and ported heads.
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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:15 am

Been a while and not much has happened, checked in with my mechanic to see how things were going. Replacement engine, reconditioned steering rack, rear shockers and muffler are all in, basically all thats left is to reconfigure all the vacuum hoses and paperwork for roadworthy. He's on crutches after knee surgery which would help to explain the delay, but I'd also told him I wasn't in a rush which was a mistake on my part. My girlfriend and I have split in that time so getting it on the road has now become more of a priority, since we're currently sharing a car.

With any luck it will have licence plates bolted on in the next couple of weeks, fingers crossed I'll have more updates soon.

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Post by El_Freddo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:55 pm

johnnyjoejoejr wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:15 am
... I'd also told him I wasn't in a rush which was a mistake on my part. My girlfriend and I have split in that time so getting it on the road has now become more of a priority, since we're currently sharing a car.

With any luck it will have licence plates bolted on in the next couple of weeks, fingers crossed I'll have more updates soon.
I hope it's on the road sooner rather than later! That doesn't sound like much of a fun :shock:

All the best!

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:02 am

The day that I thought would never arrived has finally arrived. Roadworthy, registered, and back from the dead. Everyone, meet Beatrice...

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The mechanic has done a pretty great job from what I can tell so far, he charged me a lot but was very thorough, fixed a lot of little niggles, threw in some freebies and kept everything neat and original. He even washed the engine bay and gave it the whole car a wash and vacuum.

The starter motor will replacing in the near future, it struggles to turn over at times, particulary when hot starting. Mechanic was aware of this, most likely a short in the starter somewhere drawing too many volts? The original AM/FM Radio barely works, tailgate doesn't always close properly, a few rattles here and there and a bit of cosmetic stuff, but it's all these little jobs that made me want the car in the first place.

Will clock up a heap of kms in the next few weeks, I'm aiming to drive her along the NSW south coast next month if everything seems cherry ripe.
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Post by El_Freddo » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:44 pm

Awesome! (Pics aren’t woeking on my phone - could be my phone having the issue though)

With the starter motor make sure the batter leads are in good condition. If they’re the skinny ones upgrade them to a larger gauge wire. Ensure there’s a direct negative cable from battery to engine block.

Do your tailgate struts still hold the tailgate up properly? I’ve got a set of regassed or replacement units on mine and they’re ace. I keep forgetting about the old falling tailgate saga when they’re basically dead!

Enjoy the ride!

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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by EA82GT » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:11 am

Pics not come through on my lapstop hot spotted to my phone either.

Go the EA82!


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Re: Buyers remorse, need inspiration!

Post by johnnyjoejoejr » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 am

With the starter motor make sure the batter leads are in good condition. If they’re the skinny ones upgrade them to a larger gauge wire. Ensure there’s a direct negative cable from battery to engine block
Cabling and contacts all look pretty good, checked the part number on the starter and discovered it was from an auto, not a manual. You'd probably know, but the manual unit has a longer drive. Seems to have fixed the issue.
Do your tailgate struts still hold the tailgate up properly?
Regassed the struts to pass roadworthy, no issue there. The tailgate doesn't latch shut completely unless you really slam it, would probably explain the wheelbarrow load of dust I've vacuumed out of the back. There is a big split in the steel where the boot latch bolts in, which I would assume would allow the latch to flex and move when closing. Will weld it up and see if I can reinforce it with a bit of extra steel next time I'm on the farm.

Will try uploading photos using a different method, fingers crossed this works

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