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Touring wagon vs normal model

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:02 am
by FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU
I having been contemplating switching all the good stuff exhaust, bullbar, blue touring wagon carpet, seats map reading lights and boot lights and floor vents into a nice red 87 Touring wagon my GL is a 91 model. Other than the above items and the tacho and other than space from the raised roof what other features would a touring wagon of this year have that mine wouldn't? both are carby 3 speed automatic models.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:08 pm
by Silverbullet
Power steering and air con?

Although plenty of non-touring wagons had A/C

The seats should also be alot different/more comfortable in the touring wagon plus power windows.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:01 pm
by FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU
Yeah mine has ac and power steering anyone ever seen an l series with cruise control according to wiki it was optional

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:50 am
by timmo
Door trims different, drivers seat has adjustable height, rear seats have headrests. Electric mirrors? - your car may already have. Glovebox illumination maybe.
I had a JDM 'GT' touring wagon for parts that had factory cruise.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:50 pm
by El_Freddo
So if I've read your original post correctly you've got access to an '87 touring wagon that you want the good parts from for your '91 DL (base model) wagon?

If the '87 has blue carpet it is most likely the series II version. It seems that the year 1987 was the crossover of the series I and series II L series. Differences: Grille, dash surround - headlight and wiper switches are on the dashboard for a series I and on the steering column for the series II; instrument cluster lights are orange for series I and green for series II.
Exterior rear view mirrors are mounted on the door for the series I BELOW the window, in the series II they're mounted from a triangle above the window line of the door at the forward most point of the door, it actually changes the shape of the window between the two series.

Interior colours are different too. The blue is darker in the series I than the series II. Series I came in brown as well, typically with a red exterior.

Gearboxes, the dual ranges in particular seemed to be mainly 3.9 final (diff) ratio. The MPFI in the series I is a flapper type AFM and a hotwire AFM in the series II. This equates to a three plug ECU in the series I and a four plug in the series II.

And of course between all year models there are various wiring differences and emissions differences too.

Power windows will fit in too. The wiring is a separate system "overlaid" over the required wiring for lights/ECU etc etc. I'm not 100% sure if the DL wiring has the plug for power to the system but this wouldn't be difficult to retro fit to avoid a complete whole vehicle rewire (not as hairy as you'd think!)

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:14 am
by El_Freddo
FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU wrote:Yeah mine has ac and power steering anyone ever seen an l series with cruise control according to wiki it was optional
I forgot to comment on this optional cruise control. Not in Australia! :( It was offered in the US and was a neat looking kit - had the control buttons on the steering wheel from what I've seen.

Would be nice but I've already done the AP60 aftermarket kit trick ;)

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:24 pm
by FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU
how much did the AP60 set you back? interior is dark grey it is one of the rare automatic 4wd's with the button on the side of the dash that is meant to engage with brakes, acceleration and wipers. its in rough shape I scored the wheel carrier off it for 150 thinking of going back for the tacho, the king springs it has, spare set of 14s have been very tempted at the power windows but I find with most cars they are problematic and play up.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:24 pm
by FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU
didn't get a chance to check whether it had the adjustable suspension.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:24 pm
by El_Freddo
FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU wrote:how much did the AP60 set you back?
About $250 - around the same as the cost of the "cheapest" fine in vic from what I understand.
FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU wrote:interior is dark grey it is one of the rare automatic 4wd's with the button on the side of the dash that is meant to engage with brakes, acceleration and wipers. its in rough shape I scored the wheel carrier off it for 150 thinking of going back for the tacho, the king springs it has, spare set of 14s have been very tempted at the power windows but I find with most cars they are problematic and play up.
The rarity I think is the interior colour, if it's the darker grey type. AFAIK that button is standard on the auto. My one (Sheldon) had it when it was auto.

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:45 pm
by FALCONCONVERTTOSUBARU
It's dark grey and in horrible shape