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Need help ea82

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:50 pm
by Sully92
Hi
I have currently got a Subaru Leone 1990 with a EA82 Carb motor in it but i want to replace the motor for an EA82 MPFI system and need to know what other things i will need and what people recommend for the job

Cheers Sully

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:58 pm
by Gannon
You really want the whole car so you can transfer the fuel tank, pump and lines. Swap the entire wiring loom and then the motor. A kinda big job for only about 10hp gain

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:21 pm
by thunder039
Gannon wrote:You really want the whole car so you can transfer the fuel tank, pump and lines. Swap the entire wiring loom and then the motor. A kinda big job for only about 10hp gain
would be better off doing a EJ conversion?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:06 pm
by Battlewagon
What you'll need is a complete donor car with MPFI.
And a lot of patience.
You'll gain a little more power, but a lot more reliability, the bog standard carbs are generally clapped out by now.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:50 am
by taza
Battlewagon wrote:What you'll need is a complete donor car with MPFI.
And a lot of patience.
You'll gain a little more power, but a lot more reliability, the bog standard carbs are generally clapped out by now.
Mines still kicking around alright in my L-Series. Leaves my Forester for dead in a race, but the Foz does have a few mechanical issues.. :rolleyes:

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:38 am
by fredsub
Gannon wrote:You really want the whole car so you can transfer the fuel tank, pump and lines. Swap the entire wiring loom and then the motor. A kinda big job for only about 10hp gain
yes, while that is ideal, it will work without the fuel tank and lines swap.
your 1990 subaru will have 3 fuel lines back to the rear, while won't be the same ideal widths as you get for the EFI, it will work. It worked for my ea82t L series when i had it.
You will need a different pump set up however and advise not to run the tank fuel down to near empty.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:23 pm
by steptoe
Wouldn't it be easier/better/cheaper in the long run to go EJ - like EJ powered from factory. Think I'd be convinced that was the way to go - if only the Brumby came out in 92 with an EJ20 and AWD (by then already three year old drive train )!

Search all posts by El_Freddo , think he went that way first .....

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:11 am
by 2nd Hand Yank
steptoe wrote:Wouldn't it be easier/better/cheaper in the long run to go EJ - like EJ powered from factory. Think I'd be convinced that was the way to go - if only the Brumby came out in 92 with an EJ20 and AWD (by then already three year old drive train )!

Search all posts by El_Freddo , think he went that way first .....

^^ Would a AWD Liberty Wagon be a fair substitute for the offroad capabilities of a 4wd L Series? :confused:

Just in case I have to give up my L Series.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:12 am
by Brumby Kid
2nd Hand Yank wrote:^^ Would a AWD Liberty Wagon be a fair substitute for the offroad capabilities of a 4wd L Series? :confused:

Just in case I have to give up my L Series.
Yes.
I love mums.
But being about 6 foot 2 there isn't much room in the back or drivers.
Plenty of boot space.
No idea Of the low range.
But it defanitaly needs a lift.
There is no ground clearance.

Cheers Cam

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:31 am
by El_Freddo
steptoe wrote:Search all posts by El_Freddo , think he went that way first .....
I did. The conversion was almost complete before I found out about this forum. Then I learned about the EJ conversion later.

By far the easiest way to do this conversion is to swap the entire wiring loom in the vehicle. It can be tedious, but you'll also need all the dash board wiring and the instrument cluster.

As for the fuel tank, I'd only upgrade the return line to the same size as the input line - I had a surging issue and I put it down to the fuel not being able to return to the fuel tank quick enough at times. It wasn't always there either.

If you're after more power and want something that's going to be better in the long run and about the same amount of work (it's got some extra bits involved) go with an EJ conversion. You won't look back - the L series should have come from the factory with a EJ, it's simply a brilliant vehicle with one fitted to it. The trick is to get the wiring sorted properly the first time you cut it down.

Other than that, if you want to stick with the EA82 the EFI is a very smooth engine, just that it is still feeding an EA82 - if it's been kept well you'll not have any issues with it. If not, well, I pulled mine apart many times to try in vain to fix oil leaks around the cam box! I now do head gaskets on the bench rather than in the engine bay - it's just easier!

At the end of the day, I'd go the ease of EFI over a well used (not very well maintained) carb setup - I've had enough with the hard to start in the morning with the carbs!

Cheers

Bennie