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Aftermarket cruise control?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:54 pm
by 2nd Hand Yank
I want cruise control for my 93 L Series.
Both because speed cameras suck, and 3+ hr drives get a bit annoying.

What are my options?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:25 pm
by sven '2'
1. $150 K-Mart special - used to come with a VHS instruction/installation tape, or

2. for north of $800 buy a professionally fitted one, or

3. buy a lib with one fitted, or

4. concentrate - cruise control will possibly make you more likely to miss changes in the speed limit = more fines

Have never really seen aftermarket CC work in the long term - there are car yards with boxes of them ripped of older cars

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:01 pm
by steptoe
if the kmart special is made by Command auto group like AP50 or 60 (ebay about 260) they are good stuff. I bought an AP50 from Kmart about ten years ago , came with most explicit instructions, three levels of diagnostics and second to none telephone support from the guys in Botany who designed something like twenty different cruise systems, including the new (back ten years ago) drive by wire for BA Falcon. Great thing! I mounted my vacuum unit under the glovebox so I can hear it working, keeps it away from heat and wet etc.

With AP50 and Subaru, just one magnet required on tail shaft, medium sensitivity and snip the black loop wire so it works over 105 kph and not below 40 !

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:42 pm
by sven '2'
steptoe wrote:if the kmart special is made by Command auto group like AP50 or 60 (ebay about 260) they are good stuff. I bought an AP50 from Kmart about ten years ago , came with most explicit instructions, three levels of diagnostics and second to none telephone support from the guys in Botany who designed something like twenty different cruise systems, including the new (back ten years ago) drive by wire for BA Falcon. Great thing! I mounted my vacuum unit under the glovebox so I can hear it working, keeps it away from heat and wet etc.

With AP50 and Subaru, just one magnet required on tail shaft, medium sensitivity and snip the black loop wire so it works over 105 kph and not below 40 !
Yep, that's the one - prob includes one those new-fangled DVDs the kids are into nowadays.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:00 am
by Venom
Bennie installed one not long ago, have a look in his thread. He is very happy with it.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:36 am
by 2nd Hand Yank
Venom wrote:Bennie installed one not long ago, have a look in his thread. He is very happy with it.
where is this thread? :)

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:00 pm
by El_Freddo
Venom wrote:Bennie installed one not long ago, have a look in his thread. He is very happy with it.
Yeah I am! AP60, got it from Autobarn, not my favourite choice of retailer, especially in benders but they were the only place I could find a unit that I was happy with, and I didn't want to buy from ebay. I think it cost me $250, about $20 more than the smallest fine you get for speeding over here...
2nd Hand Yank wrote:where is this thread? :)
In the restorations section, you should read it - link to post about the cruise install - photos are after this post; link to Ruby Scoo's build thread. I'm not meaning to blow my own trumpet but there's probably a lot in there that you want to do to your L series. The cruise was easy to install once I knew where I wanted to place everything. Tuning it was straight forward once I'd stopped and read the instructions! Been a dream ever since and makes long distance driving a breeze now! I'm not feeling buggered at the end of a long drive anymore...

And I'm sure Ruby Scoo would be more than happy to have a twin!

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:56 pm
by 2nd Hand Yank
El_Freddo wrote:Yeah I am! AP60, got it from Autobarn, not my favourite choice of retailer, especially in benders but they were the only place I could find a unit that I was happy with, and I didn't want to buy from ebay. I think it cost me $250, about $20 more than the smallest fine you get for speeding over here...



In the restorations section, you should read it - link to post about the cruise install - photos are after this post; link to Ruby Scoo's build thread. I'm not meaning to blow my own trumpet but there's probably a lot in there that you want to do to your L series. The cruise was easy to install once I knew where I wanted to place everything. Tuning it was straight forward once I'd stopped and read the instructions! Been a dream ever since and makes long distance driving a breeze now! I'm not feeling buggered at the end of a long drive anymore...

And I'm sure Ruby Scoo would be more than happy to have a twin!

Cheers

Bennie
Ouch! WA's a bit kinder than VIC in that regard. Mine was $150.

Cheers mate. :)

Ruby Scoo and Donk become twins? :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:20 am
by d_generate
I didn't realise they were so expensive, I've ripped 2 out of cars and have no idea if they are still in my bits boxes.....damn should have been more careful with them.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:28 pm
by El_Freddo
Yeah I had the option to pull the cruise from dad's old rangie that was after market with the column stalk but a) it may have made the install harder, b) I was flat out for time to pull it and c) I wasn't 100% sure it worked...

So new was the logical choice for me.

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:14 pm
by d_generate
Yeah the reason I ripped them out was because of the ugly wobbly stalk. I'm sure they could have designed a switch set up that was a neater fit.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:09 pm
by 2nd Hand Yank
Wow Bennie. that's one serious read. A "saga" is a good way to put it. :mrgreen:

I read the first page. I think I'll limit myself to 1-3 pages per day.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:16 am
by steptoe
AP50 was a kmart thing with flat panel switches, the AP60 was an autopro autobarn thing with the ugly stalk arrangement

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:22 pm
by El_Freddo
steptoe wrote:AP50 was a kmart thing with flat panel switches, the AP60 was an autopro autobarn thing with the ugly stalk arrangement
Well my unit is the AP60 and has the control pad:

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Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:21 pm
by D3V1L
same as the cruise controll on my patrol bennie.

payed 220 and took me less then an hour to fit, and benefits are amazing. gotta get one into the new 4bie as well for the missus now caus the factory one is a bit hit and miss

davo

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:29 pm
by steptoe
noticed that the latest 60's are pad switched, mine was about 2001, 2002

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:22 pm
by 2nd Hand Yank
D3V1L wrote:same as the cruise controll on my patrol bennie.

payed 220 and took me less then an hour to fit, and benefits are amazing. gotta get one into the new 4bie as well for the missus now caus the factory one is a bit hit and miss

davo
Good price D3V1L. :)
Did you get that recently? Where?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:14 am
by steptoe
my price was better .... $149 on special ten years ago :D Retail back then was about the $200 mark, so inflation, buying power etc not had too much of an effect in all that time - bit like income :( They were made in Taiwan, hope that is still the case....