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For those looking for a electric window upgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:45 pm
by Backyard_Brumby
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 3737wt_905

That is a link to a package in the states that claims it is a complete kit for brumby power window upgrade, I must admit I am tempted to try it and see how it goes

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:50 pm
by El_Freddo
You can do it yourself. I've made a set for Sunnie the Brumby - there's a write up about it amongst his build thread in the restorations area.

I had to make some adjustments but apparently Subarino whom I got the idea from just bolted his straight in.

If you manage to find a coupe with power windows these too will bolt straight in without an issue.

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:57 pm
by TOONGA
176 dollars US for postage is chest pain inducing

but it looks like a great kit

TOONGA

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:00 pm
by guyph_01
I've got x4 MY complete elec window front doors for sale if your interested:)

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by El_Freddo
guyph_01 wrote:I've got x4 MY complete elec window front doors for sale if your interested:)
Of course you have guyph :rolleyes: What don't you have for sale??

:p

Bennie

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:20 pm
by Backyard_Brumby
Couldn't agree more Toonga, I must admit I didn't have a look at the postage as I was planning to get it sent to a friend in the U.S to bring back,

El Freddo I remember actually reading your write up, It is what made me think about having a look if anyone did make a kit out of interest. I was tempted as in the complete rebuild of the whole car it might be the only NEW thing installed haha.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:49 am
by guyph_01
El_Freddo wrote:Of course you have guyph :rolleyes: What don't you have for sale??

:p

Bennie
HAHAHAHAAHA:p

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:46 am
by sven '2'
I used secondhand coupe parts and converted my Brumby back in the day

Was easy. About 45 min on the first door, a bit less on the second.

Would recommend you grease / fix any old bushes as part of the process though - stops rattles and ensures a smooth ride.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:26 am
by subybrumby
I have a similiar kit installed in my brumby and was there when I bought it. The system uses a cable driven cog that slides over the old door winder and then has a blanking off piece that goes over the stub. It is probably a generic item that is available in Australia and not subaru brat specific. Like this :-

http://www.driveshop.com.au/categories/ ... ndow-kits/

It works ok but is a bit tired going up.

Electric window upgrade

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:40 am
by coxy
I went a different way and sourced Liberty power window assemblies,swapped the runner off the brumby that runs below the actual window to the Liberty arm assemblies.
Then powered up the unit to acertain where it needed to bolt up to work,drilled some new holes and had to use some spacers I had lying around for some mounting holes and it fitted and worked.
Switch wise I used 90's Mitsubish Lancer switches and mounted them into the centre consul,wired up relays figured out how the switches operated and made it work.
Simple up for up down for down separate for each window nothing automatic but it works well enough in a fashion they all did in things like Mustangs etc 25~30 years ago who needs the complications of computerised everything.
Reason for Liberty gear was it is available,newer compact and Subaru,switches whatever you find that fits,would find something other than lancer next time as they have an angled wire hookup at 45 degrees that took some dremel work for fitting,straight out the back would be easier.
Awesome being able to open passenger window from centre consul on a hot day worth the effort.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:25 am
by coxy
I did a power window conversion with some mucking about using Liberty Power window assenblies,newer and not worn out,swap the MY window horizontal track for the liberty one,power up the windows to see where to mount the motor there is a section with a recess where it will fit up.
You must drill new mounting holes and make up some spacers or mod the doors sheetmetal.
Switchgear wise I used Lancer door switches in the centre consol only issue is the wire plug comes out at an angle but the Dremel sorted that and then Relay and fused power supply,other switches could work.
Mitsubishi switches switch power and earth about to allow powering the motor normally and reversing to go up and down so do not need some fancy Electronic control unit to operate,only downside is no Auto operation

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:59 pm
by Backyard_Brumby
hmm now I am definitely in two minds, the electric windows was something I was going to have to leave as the rest of the project is going to take long enough. However I thought about the kit as an easy out that would be nice and new.

SubyBrumby, whats your thoughts? is the kit you have worth having there or would I be better off leaving manual until I do it properly

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:54 am
by subybrumby
Hi...No its worth the installation I reckon. My brumby also has central remote locking so as I walk away, I press the button on the remote and the car locks itself and the windows go up. I spoke to an electrician mate of mine and apparently its easy to do and is in the way its wired. One of the windows is a bit lazy going up..it comes up alright but you can here it labour a bit . I'm sure it probably just needs a bit of grease somewhere. I've squirted a bit of INOX down there but mustn't be getting quite to it. When the car is running down the highway it works fine and as a previous post said, its handy to be able to bring down the passenger window especially if there is a car you want to hear take off from the lights beside you. (WE've all done that) The switches have been placed in the coin holder position at the front of the centre console.

My brumby has had a heap of gadgetry installed by a previous owner. Some of it is good, some a bit of "why did they put that in here" sort of feel but the windows are certainly a plus. The reason I posted was that I feel it is a generic kit and wouldn't see that you would have to pay freight from USA for one..

The electric motor sits inside the lower door and the two cables go to a cog that sits over the manual winder (I've had one apart.) The cog system sits on the handle spline and has a screw that goes in where the plastic cogs mesh and locks it up. Then a plastic blank goes over the old handle stub. It all look neat and works well. Good luck with it if you do the install. If you do order one, just ask about compatibility before you buy.....

Cheer...Trevor

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:50 am
by Venom
Off topic, but if your windows are struggling you could try cleaning the rubber that sits up against the window on the outside accross the top of the door. They also get dry/hard, and just like crappy windreen wipers the glass doesn't run smoothly against it. I nearly broke a winder on my L series, but a bit of a clean and some amourall on the rubber worked a treat.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:30 pm
by subybrumby
Thanks Venom, ..I'll have a look at that. I'm sure its nothing serious as the window still works and has been working all the time I've had the car.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:44 pm
by Backyard_Brumby
Cheers Trevor for such a good explanation. really appreciate the insight and good write up. Looks like I will probably get that kit, Due to the no postage costs it would set me back $80 which I think would be well worth it. I was also thinking about doing a central locking and keyless set up but I think that will have to be put on the backburner.



Following Venom's lead of going off topic,


Does anyone have thoughts/experience with working on the doors.

My current problem is that they seem very loose, as in when i close the door it rattles for a couple of seconds after as the window and regulator seem to move and then the panel itself. I am trying to give a more " tight " sturdy feeling but so far to no avail ....any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:34 pm
by El_Freddo
Pull the door trim off. Make sure there is still the factory piece of foam wrapped over the two thin rods that run between the door latch and the inside door handle. These can rattle if the foam piece has perished or been removed.

Other than that make sure the window runner guides are firmly screwed in and the wiring (if any) is secured. Also make sure there is no debris of any sort in the bottom of the door ;)

As for the switches - the factory touring wagon console goes well. Just don't use the switches for the "rear" windows :D Best bit about using the factory wiring was that it plugged straight in.

Cheers

Bennie

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:02 pm
by 555Ron
Ok, the idea of keyless entry has me interested. What is a good (brand) quality kit at a reasonable price? And how difficult would the install be?

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:08 pm
by subybrumby
The security system in my brumby is from "dynatron" Don't know much about it as it was in the car when I got it. Web site here:- must be available here in Aussie somewhere

http://www.dynatron.co.nz/

(Sorry if we are off topic here)

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:57 am
by Backyard_Brumby
I purchased a set to throw into my old beamer, it was only $45 off ebay, quality seems good...I thought about fitting it into the brumby but from my understanding it is designed to hook into the central locking. So not sure how I would go about installing it.