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Post by sublime » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:49 pm

autoscan1 wrote:seems the administrators don't want this fix displayed
What fix? You have not displayed or detailed any fix... Just spruiked for a business.
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Post by El_Freddo » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:53 pm

I'm with you Toonga! Has there been a thread started to notify the moderators?

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Post by RSR 555 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:46 pm

sublime wrote:What fix? You have not displayed or detailed any fix... Just spruiked for a business.
+1.. if not going to be helpful then just pay the Admin a fee and then advertise your business.. how hard is that?
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Post by El_Freddo » Sat May 03, 2014 11:28 am

He knows NOTHING of the FIX!

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DPF monitoring

Post by pitrack_1 » Sat May 03, 2014 2:25 pm

I now monitor my DPF regens through an OBD-II Bluetooth interface and Torque Pro on Android. At least it warns me during the DPF regen.

Thanks to Ghostgum (and Subdiesel/ Subaru diesel crew site) for the PIDs to get me going, I was stuck figuring it out!

Note the temps in this image are somewhat extreme and don't normally go that high (more around the 600-650C level).
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Post by ghostgum » Sat May 03, 2014 8:03 pm

What PID values did you use for those temperatures?

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DPF Temp PIDs

Post by pitrack_1 » Sat May 03, 2014 10:59 pm

ghostgum wrote:What PID values did you use for those temperatures?
Hi Ghostgum,

See here for the details of the following:
  • Estimated DPF Temperature Mode And PID: 22114C
  • Estimated Catalyst Temperature Mode And PID: 22114B
  • Exhaust Gas Temp at DPF Mode And PID: 22003E
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Post by RSR 555 » Tue May 06, 2014 11:41 am

pitrack_1 wrote:I now monitor my DPF regens through an OBD-II Bluetooth interface and Torque Pro on Android. At least it warns me during the DPF regen.

Thanks to Ghostgum (and Subdiesel/ Subaru diesel crew site) for the PIDs to get me going, I was stuck figuring it out!

Note the temps in this image are somewhat extreme and don't normally go that high (more around the 600-650C level).
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Awesome and must get TP.. thanks

Can you data log this info?
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Post by pitrack_1 » Tue May 06, 2014 10:32 pm

RSR 555 wrote:Awesome and must get TP.. thanks
No probs :-)
RSR 555 wrote:Can you data log this info?
Yes. Text CSV (comma delimited) file, easily importable to just about anything. You can select the parameters to log. Many options. GPS too if you wish to track your drive.

Here's a sample with the DPF turning on (value 0 -> 255). Copy the lines below (note word wrapping may interfere with the full line) into a text file, save with .csv extension, import into excel (should give lots of columns) and plot Time vs DPF Active Regeneration Switch as a scatter line graph.
Device Time, G(x), G(y), G(z), G(calibrated),DPF Active Regeneration Switch(on/off),Glow Relay Switch(on/off),Oil Dilution Ratio(%),Soot Accumulation Ratio(%),Exhaust Gas Temp at DPF(°C),Estimated Catalyst Temperature(°C),Estimated DPF Temperature(°C),Accelerator PedalPosition D(%),Accelerator PedalPosition E(%),Engine RPM(rpm),Speed (OBD)(km/h),Intake Air Temperature(°C),Throttle Position (%)(%),DPF Active Regeneration Count
30-Apr-2014 19:28:12.679,-5.4185791,-0.5872345,7.96228027,0.00259101,0,0,3,64,214.19999695,210,215,13.33333397,13.33333397,1641.25,60,18,-,254
30-Apr-2014 19:28:13.254,-5.4185791,-0.5872345,7.96228027,0.00259101,0,0,3,64,214.19999695,210,215,13.33333397,13.33333397,1649,60,17,-,254
30-Apr-2014 19:28:13.801,-5.4185791,-0.5872345,7.96228027,0.00259101,0,0,3,64,213.3999939,210,215,13.33333397,13.33333397,1651.25,60,17,-,254
30-Apr-2014 19:28:14.364,-5.4185791,-0.5872345,7.96228027,0.00259101,255,0,3,63,213.3999939,210,215,13.33333397,13.33333397,1656.5,60,17,-,254
30-Apr-2014 19:28:14.930,-5.4185791,-0.5872345,7.96228027,0.00259101,255,0,3,64,213,210,215,13.33333397,13.33333397,1662,61,17,-,254
30-Apr-2014 19:28:15.488,-5.4185791,-0.5872345,7.96228027,0.00259101,255,0,3,64,212.6000061,210,215,13.33333397,13.33333397,1671.5,61,17,-,254
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Post by steptoe » Wed May 07, 2014 7:36 am

Waa, what next ?! Wait 'til the marketers get onto this, no worries about vehicles reliability, performance or longevity. Right now the ads only seem to spruik no need to buy after market stuff coz it all comes with sat nav, bluetooth, auto park assist and now Torque Pro !

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Post by RSR 555 » Wed May 07, 2014 11:41 pm

pitrack_1 wrote:Yes. Text CSV (comma delimited) file, easily importable to just about anything. You can select the parameters to log. Many options. GPS too if you wish to track your drive.
Excellent. It would be good to know what terrain the car is on while this is happening, so GPS would work great.
pitrack_1 wrote:Here's a sample with the DPF turning on (value 0 -> 255). Copy the lines below (note word wrapping may interfere with the full line) into a text file, save with .csv extension, import into excel (should give lots of columns) and plot Time vs DPF Active Regeneration Switch as a scatter line graph.
Sounds good. I just had word from my Subaru Rep that our 2010 Foz has had the "upgrade" to the ECU to help with the DPF fault. Once I have our Data Log I'll let you know what mine looks like.
steptoe wrote:Waa, what next ?! Wait 'til the marketers get onto this, no worries about vehicles reliability, performance or longevity. Right now the ads only seem to spruik no need to buy after market stuff coz it all comes with sat nav, bluetooth, auto park assist and now Torque Pro !
Doubt you see this from the marketers.. Manufactures don't want people seeing this info but it's been available to them since EFI
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Torque Pro et al

Post by pitrack_1 » Thu May 08, 2014 1:48 am

There's a few holes, but overall Torque Pro is a very nice piece of work. It even has a 'HUD' mode- reverses the readout (R to L) for display by reflection off the windscreen.

My interface is on the blink (or I've damaged the plug/socket :shock:), see error below, so buying a new (better) one- should hopefully have SSM access/capability too. Will let you know how it goes.

Some info for you, RSR555:
  1. There have been a few instances (lots for me recently) of code U0073 (Network Error) being thrown. This can be cleared with Torque Pro, has been suspected it may even be caused by Torque Pro on occasion. Mine may be my interface failing. I have logged many Mb and hours without any issue previously. The symptom is the Christmas tree lights up, complete with flasher. You'll know what I mean when it happens :twisted:
  2. U0073 whist driving produces unpredictable results. Sometimes the performance is impeded, the steering may drop to a default (min) assistance level, lots of electronic bits don't work (including after recycling ignition) incl cruise, have had a rpm limit ~3000 once, seems to lose knock sensing/balancing at idle, etc.
  3. For when you're finding stuff in Torque Pro, storage directories are all over the place. Some I've found are (on a Nexus 7 2013):
    • /storage/emulated/0/.torque (various- config save files and logs)
    • /storage/emulated/0/.torque/tripLogs (for the GPS logs I think- GPS not activated by me)
    • /storage/emulated/0/torqueLogs (data logs, can include GPS readouts if specified I think)
    • /storage/emulated/0/torqueTrackLog.csv (seems to be a GPS dedicated log file)
  4. A Nexus 7 2013 seems it could fit nicely where the stereo (if it can be called that) unit is in a 2010 :-)
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Post by RSR 555 » Thu May 08, 2014 12:57 pm

Excellent pitrack_1 :)

I just got given a Nexus 7 tablet for helping a friend put his supercharger in his Nissan 350Z, so I will put this tablet straight to good use :cool:

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Post by pitrack_1 » Thu May 08, 2014 10:38 pm

RSR 555 wrote:Excellent pitrack_1 :)

I just got given a Nexus 7 tablet for helping a friend put his supercharger in his Nissan 350Z, so I will put this tablet straight to good use :cool:
Hi Paul,

Well then here's a couple of files to get you started. Unzip the attached .zip, the two files inside for Torque Pro DPF monitoring are the dash setup and custom PIDs. Drop them in the appropriate directories under /storage/emulated/0/.torque/dashboards and /storage/emulated/0/.torque/extendedpids .

To do this, you'll need a file manager type program (free downloads) such as Ghost Commander (can send your logs to PC via Bluetooth) and File Commander (can act as a very basic music player- queue audio files, see below).

And the Nexus 7 (2013 or version 2) plugs nicely into the AUX-IN port (centre console bottom rear, underneath centre armrest on the 2010) to act as a music box too. You just need a standard stereo headphone socket (2.5mm?) male-male link cable.

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100k

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Just achieved tonight...

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Post by steptoe » Fri May 09, 2014 7:46 am

Hope that milestone was achieved in the driveway or somewhere safe to take the pic :p

Supercharger on a 350Z ??!! Been lucky enough to have driven a few :) can't imagine why anyone needs a SC on one of these rockets ? Trying to shred the fibreglass or is it kevlar - tailshaft ??

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Post by RSR 555 » Fri May 09, 2014 9:09 pm

pitrack_1 wrote:Hi Paul,

Well then here's a couple of files to get you started. Unzip the attached .zip, the two files inside for Torque Pro DPF monitoring are the dash setup and custom PIDs. Drop them in the appropriate directories under /storage/emulated/0/.torque/dashboards and /storage/emulated/0/.torque/extendedpids .

To do this, you'll need a file manager type program (free downloads) such as Ghost Commander (can send your logs to PC via Bluetooth) and File Commander (can act as a very basic music player- queue audio files, see below).

And the Nexus 7 (2013 or version 2) plugs nicely into the AUX-IN port (centre console bottom rear, underneath centre armrest on the 2010) to act as a music box too. You just need a standard stereo headphone socket (2.5mm?) male-male link cable.

Patrick.
Hey Patrick,

Thanks heaps for this and I'll have a play and let you know how it goes. We haven't got her new Foz yet we pickup in a couple of weeks. We got it for under 20k and it has just hit 100k like yours. I can't wait to try out this Nexus and Torque Pro setup :)
ktmtragic wrote:Danielle one lucky girl
Very.. not bad for a 21yo Uni student :)
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Hexadecimal century for the DPF regen...

Post by pitrack_1 » Tue May 27, 2014 1:45 am

ghostgum wrote:I think I found the OBD2 DPF Regeneration Count parameter.

At a service two weeks ago the DPF regen count was 51. That's one regeneration per week for the life of the car.

...

So the settings I am using in Torque Pro for regen count are:
OBD2 Mode and PID is 221157, Long name "DPF Active Regeneration Count", Short name "Regen", min 0, max 65535, scale x1, Unit type [blank], Equation A*256+B. The equation may be incorrect - I won't know until it reaches 255 which will be another 4 years.
I can confirm it hits the "hexadecimal century" at 256 and rolls over from 00FF (255) to 0100 (256).
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Sorry but I forgot to take an image of the 00FF reading (255) but below is an excerpt from my logging confirming the rollover.

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Device Time	DPF Active Regen Switch(on/off)	DPF Active Regen Count
40:48.7		255				255
40:49.2		255				255
40:49.8		0				256
40:50.3		0				256
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Nexus 7- velcro mounted

Post by pitrack_1 » Wed May 28, 2014 12:01 am

RSR 555 wrote:Hey Patrick,

Thanks heaps for this and I'll have a play and let you know how it goes. We haven't got her new Foz yet we pickup in a couple of weeks. We got it for under 20k and it has just hit 100k like yours. I can't wait to try out this Nexus and Torque Pro setup :)
Hi Paul,

here's where I've set up my Nexus 7 2013. It's held in place by velcro on the Nexus' aftermarket case and on the dash. It fits uncannily well over the head unit...I don't miss much 'cos I listen to the radio and the buttons are on the wheel.
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The Nexus' auto-dim adapts very well indeed, just slightly dim in full sun. Positioning over the head unit gives a reasonable ergonomic location for control of Torque or music. It's close to the dash console power outlet (for power) but away from the centre cubby aux-in port (for music).
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