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New Record to pull out EA81

Post by Matt » Fri May 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Just set myself a new rRecord to pull out EA81 last night, did it about 1 and 1/2! Even using a come along not an engine Crane.... :-) And tonight it took me about 2 hours to get it back to running stat. I think i am getting much practice...
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Post by steptoe » Sat May 23, 2009 1:54 am

I think tim81coupe had removal down to 35 mins for an EA81, may not have involved fittting any of it back though !

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Post by someguy » Sat May 23, 2009 1:05 pm

I remember phizinza say he could do an in under EA82 in an hour.

But geez half an hour is pretty damn impressive.
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Post by AndrewT » Sat May 23, 2009 2:28 pm

steptoe wrote:I think tim81coupe had removal down to 35 mins for an EA81, may not have involved fittting any of it back though !
haha when I read the first post the first thought that popped into my head was of Tim, then I read your post.
Pretty sure Tim was using a hoist tho so that's really cheating... :)
BrennyV's old method was just using a star picket, some chain, and two guys on either side to lift it.

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Post by AlpineRaven » Sat May 23, 2009 3:59 pm

took me an hour to remove commodore's V6 engine & transmission out. Just unplug, undo bolts & exhaust. But 2 hours to put it back in and start up..
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Post by Phizinza » Sat May 23, 2009 4:21 pm

Yeah, taking an EA82 out I can do in under an hour using an engine crane. EA81 have done it in under 45mins. With help by hand we had one out in less then 40mins. I've had my Brumby's EA81 out and in in under 2 hours. Was a quick clutch job. I don't think its a good thing being about to do this so fast. Because the only thing that makes it fast is knowing what needs doing. And the only way you know what needs doing is doing it more then you ever should!
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Post by AlpineRaven » Sat May 23, 2009 4:31 pm

Phizinza wrote:Yeah, taking an EA82 out I can do in under an hour using an engine crane. EA81 have done it in under 45mins. With help by hand we had one out in less then 40mins. I've had my Brumby's EA81 out and in in under 2 hours. Was a quick clutch job. I don't think its a good thing being about to do this so fast. Because the only thing that makes it fast is knowing what needs doing. And the only way you know what needs doing is doing it more then you ever should!
Also chances for a miss or mistakes to occur.. Ive learnt that..
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Post by Matt » Sat May 23, 2009 7:09 pm

LOL you are dead right about the mistakes... I really didn't put the clutch fork back in.... could have ended in tears....
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Post by SCOOBIDOO » Sat May 23, 2009 9:56 pm

They come out in under a minute with a CAT 330 and CLAW attachment at the scrap yard..then they go straight in the IRONY ALLY Bin (irony aluminium) and sent off to make new ej25t engine blocks..:-)
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Post by Matt » Sun May 24, 2009 9:35 am

LOL... I like the above ooption only if only i didn't have to put it back in
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Post by Phizinza » Sun May 24, 2009 11:57 am

Made my mistakes the first few times I done it. Haven't made a mistake which wasn't easily fixed pulling or installing for quite a while now. Just remember to do once, check 4 or 5 times. Also do a good 5min check just before you start it. You know the drill, make sure you've got oil, coolent, all hose clamps, all vac hoses, throttle, choke, clutch adjusted, etc etc.
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Post by Gannon » Sun May 24, 2009 12:43 pm

Wow, maybe changing the clutch wont take as long as i thought, i was talking to the mechanic who machined my flywheel and he said according to his book, it takes 4.5 hours to change the clutch in a turbo EA82. And thats with workshop tools.

I will have to time myself and see how i go. It might take a bit longer cos of my intercooler and lack of proper tools, i will be lifting the engine with a block and tackle
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Post by steptoe » Mon May 25, 2009 10:26 am

proper tools? what tool haven't you got that you call a proper tool for engine removal? I know I dread the M6 bolts that hold turbo heat guards in place are time consuming and have got lots of different 10mm spanners.I have got rid of the ridiculous torque converter bolts (now a manual) . When it comes close to pulling engine out I jack up body a bit and undo the 14mm? crossmember through chassis nuts to drop XM to the end of the studs gives a bit more room to play

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Post by Gannon » Mon May 25, 2009 5:16 pm

Well i have a set of ring/open ender spanners and a socket set which is probably enough until you run into trouble.

But a hoist, engine crane, air tools and a
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Post by SUBIIE » Tue May 26, 2009 7:43 pm

45 mins was the best i could do on an EA 81 out of a wagon, but i think if you really were racing you could get it below 40.

35 mins is impressive, bit of a testimony to the ease of the engine in the older style subarus.
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Post by Willie » Wed May 27, 2009 4:13 pm

This thread reminds me of my old '69 VW Kombi - all 1600cc of her.
I could have it in the workshop, up on stands and motor out on the floor in 10 minutes. Alot of practice and only four bolts at bell housing, four bolts rear engine mounts and four bolts holding in rear beaver panel. Undo fuel lines, accelerator cable and a few elect connections - all done.

I got it in the workshop, engine out, replace clutch, engine back in and out of the workshop in a lunchtime once. Still had time to eat my sandwiches, too.

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Post by Alex » Fri May 29, 2009 10:30 am

takes devil dave and myself 1hr to remove and get a ej22 going in a lseries. Did like 3 of them in 18months haha. (thats if drinking doesnt take hold.) Lol.

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Post by mattl200 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:46 pm

i thought 1 3/4 hrs was a good job to replace a clutch in a brumby ea81
did have a fork lift though
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Post by AlpineRaven » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:31 pm

mattl200 wrote:i thought 1 3/4 hrs was a good job to replace a clutch in a brumby ea81
did have a fork lift though
forklift is a biggest killer... (even I drive them!) killed my wife's uncle while he was under his car and forklift gave away... I hope you used stands and safety things!
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Post by rtcb65 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:45 pm

We haven't timed ourselves yet with a engine out and in. Ross and i have done 2 gearboxes out and one in , in an hour and a half. Well 1 hour and 38 minutes. I don't know if that is good or not though.
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